Blackdown still looking for Staff Cadets

Primer · 20th May 2004, 17:10

F.Y.I

Blackdown Cadet Training Centre still has a number of positions for Senior Army Cadets who are CLI and Gold Star qualified. Corps COs are requested to actively promote these jobs by canvassing their Cadets and encouraging applications.

TALK TO YOUR CO FIRST BEFORE TALKING TO THE CAMP

F.Y.I

Zedic · 20th May 2004, 18:22

I know of an interested candidate in my corps (ironically it is my brother) ..... he would like to know if he is required to fill out a staff application and/or CF51 and send it in to Blackdown CSTC.

JCOY · 20th May 2004, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Primer

F.Y.I

Blackdown Cadet Training Centre still has a number of positions for Senior Army Cadets who are CLI and Gold Star qualified. Corps COs are requested to actively promote these jobs by canvassing their Cadets and encouraging applications.

F.Y.I

so.... this means i actually have a chance at jcoy csm?

Canadian Idol · 21st May 2004, 11:16

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Originally Posted by JCOY

so.... this means i actually have a chance at jcoy csm?

Robin... I've been saying it since you were accepted. You're soo the CSM... I'll put $5 on it too. Deal?

GL.

ArmyBoatswain · 21st May 2004, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Canadian Idol

Robin... I've been saying it since you were accepted. You're soo the CSM... I'll put $5 on it too. Deal?

GL.

One of the aquatics staff is a Sea Cadet...Bryan Batty?If you know him

Congrats to him though, even if it means I won't get to see him.

army_gurl_74 · 21st May 2004, 16:01

If you guys are still looking for people, then why haven't I gotten accepted or even notified (if I got rejected)

Please PM me.

Primer · 21st May 2004, 16:12

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Originally Posted by army_gurl_74

If you guys are still looking for people, then why haven't I gotten accepted or even notified (if I got rejected)

Please PM me.

Maybe you should call the Camp and ask why

sailing_gunner · 21st May 2004, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Golden_Crayola

One of the aquatics staff is a Sea Cadet...Bryan Batty?If you know him

Congrats to him though, even if it means I won't get to see him.

go Brian you are my hero man

marek · 21st May 2004, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Golden_Crayola

One of the aquatics staff is a Sea Cadet...Bryan Batty?If you know him

Congrats to him though, even if it means I won't get to see him.

Kind of ... weird if you will that he got AQUATICS staff... but then again I dont know how Blackdown runs that ... but congrats, atleast he is going SOMEWHERE making some kind of money

Caz · 22nd May 2004, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Primer

Maybe you should call the Camp and ask why

I don't think we should be encouraging the cadets to call the STC directly.

Use you chain of command, to your Pers O, via your Unit CO.

-R.

Coomber 535 · 22nd May 2004, 04:11

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Originally Posted by Caz

I don't think we should be encouraging the cadets to call the STC directly.

Use you chain of command, to your Pers O, via your Unit CO.

-R.

I don't want to sound rude or anything sir, but I've always been told that staff cadet employment has nothing to do with your unit except for the CO's recommendation. Every time I asked my CO about stuff like that she says she has nothing to do with it. But I could be wrong sir.

Personally, if it were up to me I'd email them and ask. I prefer email b/c they can answer you back at any time, not drop everything to answer your question b/c you're on the phone long distance.

Caz · 22nd May 2004, 09:22

You are correct, Chief, to an extent.

Once your application for employment leaves your COs desk, they have little to do with it. However, you still need their permission to go up the chain externally to Detachment/Region/Summer Training Centre.

Furthermore, if your CO is willing and supports your application process (and why wouldn't they, if they signed it?), a phone call from them saying "WO1 Coomber would be an excellent asset to your team this summer" is bound to be more effective than you calling and saying the same thing.

-R.

**Lt(N) J. Hillsden** · 22nd May 2004, 11:42

Speaking as a CSTC Staffing Officer...........

If a cadet calls me direct, I tell them to talk to their Commanding Officer. I do get a number of emails but I don't act on anything unless I speak with a Cadet's CO, Det or region.

I get calls all the time from COs asking if "their" cadets have been hired.

If your CO can't or thinks he/she can't help you, talk to your ACA at Det/Region.

If everyone contacted the Staffing Officers direct, no-one would ever get hired - we would be too busy answering the phone or typing replies to emails to get any staffing done.

Caz · 22nd May 2004, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Lt(N) J. Hillsden

Speaking as a CSTC Staffing Officer...........

The voice of reason

Zedic · 22nd May 2004, 20:43

So .... an interested staff candidate should submit an application ASAP?

Caz · 22nd May 2004, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Zedic_1913

So .... an interested staff candidate should submit an application ASAP?

If you haven't submitted an application for staff this summer, I'd say, yeah, good time to do it.

Otherwise, consult with your CO to see if they can find out what the staffing situation is at Blackdown, and if you can be utilized there, or somewhere else.

-R.

Zedic · 22nd May 2004, 21:17

I have already submitted an application for Blackdown and been accepted .... I'm asking for someone else who is considering applying. "Primer" mentioned that Blackdown is still hiring, so I was hoping for a response from him with more information for potential applicants.

**Lt(N) J. Hillsden** · 22nd May 2004, 21:22

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Originally Posted by Zedic_1913

So .... an interested staff candidate should submit an application ASAP?

I'm guessing the "interested staff cadet" is your brother.........right?

If he was REALLY interested, he should have submitted an application a long time ago. Since Blackdown is apparently having difficulty filling all their positions, they may well entertain an application that is probably 4 months late.

I would have to give a lot of thought to offering a position to someone who applies this late unless there is a REALLY good reason. I feel that it is a slap in the face to those cadets that submitted their applications on time and waited............and waited..............and waited.

Zedic · 22nd May 2004, 21:26

Alrite, I'll suggest to him to submit an application. He had other plans for the summer that didn't follow through and he didn't think to apply for staff just in case, so that's why he has now found himself in this situation.

**Lt(N) J. Hillsden** · 22nd May 2004, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Zedic_1913

Alrite, I'll suggest to him to submit an application. He had other plans for the summer that didn't follow through and he didn't think to apply for staff just in case, so that's why he has now found himself in this situation.

That is one of those REALLY good reasons I was talking about

20th May 2004, 17:10	#1
Primer Join Date: 2004 Location: Ottawa Gender: Posts: 565	Blackdown still looking for Staff Cadets F.Y.I Blackdown Cadet Training Centre still has a number of positions for Senior Army Cadets who are CLI and Gold Star qualified. Corps COs are requested to actively promote these jobs by canvassing their Cadets and encouraging applications. TALK TO YOUR CO FIRST BEFORE TALKING TO THE CAMP F.Y.I Last edited by Primer; 24th May 2004 at 15:41.

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Zedic Join Date: 2003 Location: Kingston, Ontario Gender: Posts: 1,112	I know of an interested candidate in my corps (ironically it is my brother) ..... he would like to know if he is required to fill out a staff application and/or CF51 and send it in to Blackdown CSTC. __________________ C Zedic

21st May 2004, 16:01	#6
army_gurl_74 Join Date: 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Gender: Posts: 1,696	If you guys are still looking for people, then why haven't I gotten accepted or even notified (if I got rejected) Please PM me. __________________ WO A. Ward (ret) RIP Sean Gould Last edited by army_gurl_74; 21st May 2004 at 16:04.

22nd May 2004, 09:22	#12
Caz Join Date: 1999 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Gender: Posts: 1,768	You are correct, Chief, to an extent. Once your application for employment leaves your COs desk, they have little to do with it. However, you still need their permission to go up the chain externally to Detachment/Region/Summer Training Centre. Furthermore, if your CO is willing and supports your application process (and why wouldn't they, if they signed it?), a phone call from them saying "WO1 Coomber would be an excellent asset to your team this summer" is bound to be more effective than you calling and saying the same thing. -R. __________________ Capt Rob Caswell Commanding Officer 52 (City of Calgary) RCACS Per Scientiam Ad Astra How old would you be, if you didn't know how old you were?

22nd May 2004, 11:42	#13
Lt(N) J. Hillsden British Bulldog Join Date: 2001 Location: Temporarily at HMCS Quadra Comox BC Gender: Posts: 4,721	Speaking as a CSTC Staffing Officer........... If a cadet calls me direct, I tell them to talk to their Commanding Officer. I do get a number of emails but I don't act on anything unless I speak with a Cadet's CO, Det or region. I get calls all the time from COs asking if "their" cadets have been hired. If your CO can't or thinks he/she can't help you, talk to your ACA at Det/Region. If everyone contacted the Staffing Officers direct, no-one would ever get hired - we would be too busy answering the phone or typing replies to emails to get any staffing done. __________________ No act of kindness, however small, is ever wasted - Aesop Happiness is being a grandparent Believe - CANUCKS 2011

22nd May 2004, 20:43	#15
Zedic Join Date: 2003 Location: Kingston, Ontario Gender: Posts: 1,112	So .... an interested staff candidate should submit an application ASAP? __________________ C Zedic

22nd May 2004, 21:17	#17
Zedic Join Date: 2003 Location: Kingston, Ontario Gender: Posts: 1,112	I have already submitted an application for Blackdown and been accepted .... I'm asking for someone else who is considering applying. "Primer" mentioned that Blackdown is still hiring, so I was hoping for a response from him with more information for potential applicants. __________________ C Zedic

22nd May 2004, 21:26	#19
Zedic Join Date: 2003 Location: Kingston, Ontario Gender: Posts: 1,112	Alrite, I'll suggest to him to submit an application. He had other plans for the summer that didn't follow through and he didn't think to apply for staff just in case, so that's why he has now found himself in this situation. __________________ C Zedic