RSM Selection

**Zedic** · 14th December 2004 11:51

I'm just curious what selection process different corps use to decide an RSM.

In my corps the candidates have to apply (as we do for any promotion) and sit a board meeting.

I've heard that in Central Region (or at least COA) it is mandatory to sit a board with a detachment representative for appointment of RSM, anyone happen to know if this is true?

**DA Wright** · 14th December 2004 12:15

Originally Posted by Zedic_1913

I'm just curious what selection process different corps use to decide an RSM.

In my corps the candidates have to apply (as we do for any promotion) and sit a board meeting.

I've heard that in Central Region (or at least COA) it is mandatory to sit a board with a detachment representative for appointment of RSM, anyone happen to know if this is true?

Central Region requires a board to be convened for the appointment of any Coxwain, RSM or SWO, except in cases where there is a clear succession and only one cadet meets the minimum criteria. See CRCSO 113/00:

http://www.central.cadets.ca/crcso/2000/2000-113.pdf

**Loyal Edmonton** · 14th December 2004 12:31

Originally Posted by Zedic_1913

I'm just curious what selection process different corps use to decide an RSM.

In my corps the candidates have to apply (as we do for any promotion) and sit a board meeting.

I've heard that in Central Region (or at least COA) it is mandatory to sit a board with a detachment representative for appointment of RSM, anyone happen to know if this is true?

my corps has had the same rsm for the last 2 years, its just up to the co and officers to get togher and decide

**Agnew** · 14th December 2004 12:37

My corps you used to be able to figure out the RSM for the next 4 years, since you could just tell who wanted it most, who had one year left, who was qualified. It was perfect.

Now, it's just who's qualified, and I'm the most qualified person in my corps(

). Hopefully we'll get some seniors through NSCE successfully this year.

**ARMY101** · 14th December 2004 12:55

Our Corps just sees who has the most experience. If a WO has National Star and the other doesn't, then the one who is N.S. certified would be the RSM. The one with the most qualifications is the one that gets the position.

**RyanForbes** · 14th December 2004 13:13

well if my current corps went in succession...then as soon as i joined i SHOULD have been RSM, but i wasnt, it went to the other MWO who was not MAster CAdet qualified...but that's ok because he ages out before me, and was a MWO before me

the way it used to go with all 4 of the Canadian Scottish Corps, is that at the begining of every year, each corps would put forth their CSM to be selected as the joint RSM, and the COs would get together and decide who it would be for that year

**engineerbabygirl** · 14th December 2004 13:18

oru corps as we went form being a satellit corps was liek hmm this guy has been in a logn tiem give it to him at this point he had been in five years and me three and I was higher qualified he got acting RSM though because he never had his NSCe now the only person with NSCe is still a CSm and we dunt haev a RSM doenst make much sense

**GGHG_Cadet** · 14th December 2004 13:25

For the last few years at my corp it has worked pretty well, the current DSM will take over for the RSM because they are usually the second most qualified and they will usually be in grade 11 and then their RSM year will be in grade 12. Clear as mud?

**Chief03** · 14th December 2004 14:00

In my core, it makes me kind of mad, cause the CO and Officers just choose who has one more year left. My last RSM didn't have NSCE, CLI, or any other type of training. He recieved an award for not attending a single range excercise. When he was the RSM he pretended to be a CI when ever we went on excercises. Than theres my new RSM now, who had CLI (recieved ANAVET) NSCE, and a sleeve full of badges. It made me mad.
Peace
Chief03

***TBird*** · 14th December 2004 15:03

I slowly userped power and overthrew my competition.... wait. I wasn't supposed to say that.

Generally the RSM Cadidate for my unit has been blatantly obvious. In June this year I have to make a recomendation as to who should follow me, same with the TrgO. The CO, obviously makes the ultimate decision. This year I think my TrgO and I will have different selections, so September should be interesting.

**ARMY101** · 14th December 2004 16:12

Originally Posted by RyanForbes

the way it used to go with all 4 of the Canadian Scottish Corps, is that at the begining of every year, each corps would put forth their CSM to be selected as the joint RSM, and the COs would get together and decide who it would be for that year

Did you have one RSM for multiple Corps

We have 1 for 1 Corps. How does your area work?

**Zedic** · 14th December 2004 16:18

Each cadet corps is entitled to their own RSM.

Some corps that work together frequently will appoint a senior RSM from one of the corps.

My corps trains with the other 3 Ontario Regiment cadet corps, we rotate which corps RSM will be in charge on each FTX.

**RyanForbes** · 14th December 2004 18:31

well there are 4 Canadian Scottish corps, and what is supposed to happen is that each year a new RSM is appointed by the 4 COs agreement. They are in charge of the Annual 4-Corps FTX weekend that happens near the end of each training year, and whatever activities the corps do together. there isnt much of a requirement to be present at every corps every night, because of the amount of travel involved

***TBird*** · 14th December 2004 22:02

We did that for 2 years, travel times made it unrealistic b/c we figured if s/he couldn't be there, the point was lost....

**CWO Wannabe** · 15th December 2004 00:38

My old cadet unit did the promotion to Chief Warrant Officer and appointment to Regimental Sergeant Major separately. The philosophy was that you could be a Chief Warrant Officer, but not necessarily a Regimental Sergeant Major.

In at least one instance I'm aware of, the Chief Warrant Officer was dubbed "Senior Cadet."

We do basically the same thing in the unit that I'm with now. As far as these units go, you're not an RSM until you are: a.)appointed by the CO; and b.) promoted to CWO. If you're a MWO, you sign your signature CSM or SSM.

That's just the two units I was with.

I would agree that it's impractical to have one RSM for all sorts of units. Especially with an affiliated unit like the Loyal Edmonton Regiment... their affiliated cadet units look like green diarrhea on a map... too complicated to keep track of that.

**RyanForbes** · 15th December 2004 07:25

well the reason the C Scots do it, is because all the corps are within a 2.5 hour drive of each other on Vancouver Island

the current RSM was a Chief for about a week, then demoted back to MWO due to disciplinary reasons...he is still the RSM though

**Loyal Edmonton** · 15th December 2004 10:14

Originally Posted by CWO Wannabe

I would agree that it's impractical to have one RSM for all sorts of units. Especially with an affiliated unit like the Loyal Edmonton Regiment... their affiliated cadet units look like green diarrhea on a map... too complicated to keep track of that.

Woot for 2850 for being the first affliated!!! just thought i would add that lol

**Bourgaize** · 16th December 2004 21:31

Quite simple here...it goes to my right hand man/woman (in this case man) the CSM

**ARMY101** · 17th December 2004 05:23

Yeah, it's unlikely that say a WO would take over RSM instead of the CSM who is already mostly used to the position.

**RyanForbes** · 17th December 2004 07:23

unless the CSM is incompetent, had been given disciplinary action, doesnt want the position, or any other one of the numerous posibilities...then the WO would be RSM over the CSM

of course it is ultimately the COs decision

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