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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by g.landonbrowne View Post
    It is taking a while to attach I should have it sent in the next 30 mins
    thank you.
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    the problem with the 201 is it is not a public document. It is a controlled document *albeit not very well controlled. I do not think that it can be posted here legally. I know that there was a lot of talk about posting it to the cadets.ca website but since it hasn't happened yet, I imagine they are having difficulties doing that as well.
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    alright sir, the link has been removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt(N) R. Molitor View Post
    the problem with the 201 is it is not a public document. It is a controlled document *albeit not very well controlled. I do not think that it can be posted here legally. I know that there was a lot of talk about posting it to the cadets.ca website but since it hasn't happened yet, I imagine they are having difficulties doing that as well.
    This site is very public.

    http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/land-te...formes-eng.asp

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    There are a couple of websites out there that have the 201 up (just not the full version) and there has never been any legal issues with it. Is the Manual not public access, and why then would it be made available to cadets if it isn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwgill View Post
    well then sir, would it be safe to have a link to the 201 here... the full 684 page one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed View Post
    well then sir, would it be safe to have a link to the 201 here... the full 684 page one?
    I shouldn't think you would get in any trouble

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed View Post
    well then sir, would it be safe to have a link to the 201 here... the full 684 page one?
    I just gave you a link

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by rwgill View Post
    I just gave you a link
    my mistake sir... i thought the website was something else.
    gotta get some more sleep...
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed View Post
    my mistake sir... i thought the website was something else.
    gotta get some more sleep...
    I removed your link.

    The documents are owed by DND. They can share their documents, but you shouldn't.

  11. #31
    just because you have information does not mean you have the right to post information; you can end up making people angry (wiki-leaks?).

    Also, just cause someone else is posting it does not mean they are doing the right thing. Millions of people post pirate copies of music and movies online, does not mean it is right if I do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt(N) R. Molitor View Post
    just because you have information does not mean you have the right to post information; you can end up making people angry (wiki-leaks?).

    Also, just cause someone else is posting it does not mean they are doing the right thing. Millions of people post pirate copies of music and movies online, does not mean it is right if I do it.
    Pirating music or movies means that you're preventing the artist from making money; but who is being harmed when you post a copy of the 201?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Allen View Post
    It's not just that you're stealing money from the person, the fact is that it is copyrighted and you are breaking the law.
    Remember: Law != Morality

    If something is illegal, it doesn't automatically mean it's immoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt(N) R. Molitor View Post
    the problem with the 201 is it is not a public document. It is a controlled document *albeit not very well controlled. I do not think that it can be posted here legally.
    Legally in terms of the Copyright Act, or something else? It's unclassified, so I don't see an official-secrets-type issue.

  17. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by rwgill View Post
    I removed your link.

    The documents are owed by DND. They can share their documents, but you shouldn't.
    thank you sir, i didnt know that.... i just assumed since it was available to the public for free that we're allowed to re distribute it... i guess i was wrong. thank you for correcting me.
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  18. #37
    Okay, I said I was going to PM Lt Deck, RCN which I have. We will discuss this and make a decision. I will post once this decision has been made. Thank you Rob for the link but it takes us to the 265, not the 201 (although useful in its own way).
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Gleiberman View Post
    Okay, I said I was going to PM Lt Deck, RCN which I have. We will discuss this and make a decision. I will post once this decision has been made. Thank you Rob for the link but it takes us to the 265, not the 201 (although useful in its own way).
    Darn! Sorry. They used to be on the same page.

    It should still be on there somewhere. I'll check.

  20. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed View Post
    thank you sir, i didnt know that.... i just assumed since it was available to the public for free that we're allowed to re distribute it... i guess i was wrong. thank you for correcting me.
    where has DND posted this document for the public?
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  21. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Lt(N) R. Molitor View Post
    where has DND posted this document for the public?
    Until extremely recently it was posted openly on the Canadian Army website. For whatever reason that link is dead but I highly doubt it's a copyright or restricted publication issue.
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