Outraged By The Fiberal Budget!!!???!!!

[The Blue Tory]

The previous version of this might be too harsh...

So let me edit it by simply putting

THANKYOU CW'S ONTARIO LIBERAL SUPPORTERS FOR ELECTING A GOVERNMENT OF SUCH INCOMPETENCY. MY LIGHTENED WALLET THANKS YOU...

So why don't we have impeachment in Canada.

Don't you think that if a government is so incompetent and breaks so many promises as soon as taking power, they should face impeachment?

[AMothfromWpg]

As much as I don't usually agree with liberal idealogy
what is your substantiation for your opinion?

And the note about the gov't breaking promises- all gov'ts do - there are things that will ensure votes, and then there are the actual promises to work on... It's all in how you read `em...

[The Blue Tory]

As much as I don't usually agree with liberal idealogy
what is your substantiation for your opinion?

And the note about the gov't breaking promises- all gov'ts do - there are things that will ensure votes, and then there are the actual promises to work on... It's all in how you read `em...

Well, most governments keep at least a few of their promises and don't break any before they hit their first budget

[chrischu]

The West never gets any funding anyways.

[Chief Hoult]

In all fairness, who would you have thought to win?

The PC's wouldn't win, too many people wanted them gone (not personally, but clearly I'm one of the few)

NDP? Uhh...yeah...no.

Vote for Satan, the lesser of 4 evils lol, not really....go PC (or whatever they are now, lol)

CH

[jgoguen]

HANKYOU CW'S ONTARIO FIB(ERR...) LIBERAL SUPPORTERS FOR ELECTING A GOVERNMENT OF SUCH INCOMPETENCY. MY LIGHTENED WALLET THANKS YOU...

Because of course the members of CW from Ontario make up the majority of the voting population in Ontario and all support the Liberals... What? You mean that's not true? Well then why are you saying CWs Ontario Liberal supporters had anything to do with electing a government. Let's actually think about this for a second...

Don't you think that if a government is so incompetent and breaks so many promises as soon as taking power, they should face impeachment?

• It is illegal for anyone to lie about a candidate during a federal election campaign, but it is legal for candidates to lie about what they promise to do or what they have done in every province except British Columbia.

So don't complain that candidates are lying. They're allowed to. In fact, Paul Martin's campaign promise could be to raise minimum wage to $20/hr nation-wide and to write a law saying politicians can't lie during an election (like in BC provincial elections) and then laugh and say "yea right" when he gets elected.

• The last four elections have elected majority governments, and at no point did the ruling party receive more than 33.1% of eligible voters.

So maybe Liberal support isn't so rampant if they only got 33.1% of eligible voters. Hmm...

• If six Canadians believe a Canadian corporation is lying in its advertising, they can sign and send a letter to the Competition Bureau. The Bureau will investigate and determine whether the corporation lied, and if so, what corrective measures are required.

I'm sure you can find 5 other people who think the government is lying. Write a letter to the Competition Bureau. Heck, just skip that and send it straight to Paul Martin himself...just drop an envelope in the mailbox saying "To: The Office of the Prime Minister"...you don't even have to risk him knowing who wrote the letter

• Quebec's voter turn-out rate was 64.1% in 2000, the third highest in Canada (behind New Brunswick and Prince Edward's Island, and just over the national average of 61.2%).
• In the 1997 Federal Election, Quebec had the second highest turn-out in the country with 77.3% (Nova Scotia's was 77.4) and in 1993, the highest turn-out with 77.1%.

Seems to me if you want the Liberals gone, you should be talking nice to people from Quebec. All over Quebec too. Or get the people of Ontario to all vote. Either way, you've got to talk to those nasty, dirty, hateful moronic Liberal supporters

[Ching]

Hokay.
First of all, no, I'm not outraged by this budget.
It's going to improve healthcare in Ontario, one of the election promises. The minimal cost of the premiums, in my opinion, is a small price to pay for improved healthcare. The money has to come from somewhere, and with a $6 billion deficit to work with, what else do you expect them to do?
They're also increasing education spending. Hiring 1000 new teachers. Finally capping class sizes, something the Tories promised repeatedly but never did.
The PCs will never be happy with a Liberal budget, even if it were identical to the one they themselves would have put out. It's their job to get fanatically angry about anything a Liberal does. If they'd decided to balance the budget and not increase spending in healthcare or education, we'd get months of griping about how the Liberals don't share Ontarians' "number one priorities". Since they've decided to gradually balance the budget, and to increase spending by increasing taxes slightly, we're going to hear griping about this instead.
I see this as a very bold and positive budget. I hope to God that it works out well.
And, if I had my druthers, I druther have the NDP in power. NDP roxors my boxers.

[Lance]

Jesus Tak, where does it end? You should just move to another country for christ sake, first fast food is too expensive then gas (its 99.9 here for self serve regular, consider yourself lucky!), now this. What next? Isit gonna be tuition raises (again...), or how about the hunt for some crazy wild endangered animal in the rockies, no wait, I bet it will be something about me shooting you down everytime you get on your high horse about something stupid.

Look man, dont blame it on the supporters, because they DIDNT make the promises, they just voted. Maybe YOU should run for office if you think you could do better...

[piper]

While I normally have my views leaning towards the CPC (and old Alliance party) way of thinking, I do think differently on one thing. If you want to have all the nice things we have here in Ontario (or Canada for that matter), like half decent roads and healthcare with no money down, you have to pay taxes. Thats how it is, high taxes=more gov't programs and support (like student loans...) and low taxes=less services. The gov't is cash strapped across the board, and unless we want a US style healthcare system, we gotta fork out a little more taxes. Thats how it is, unless we hit the jackpot of oil up north or something, we're going to have to pay taxes, like it or not.

And last but not least...in the upcoming federal election....vote CPC!!! They're the only hope we have left for Canada.

[The Blue Tory]

not the taxes so much... as the lack of ability to keep at least 2% of his promises made...

I take comfort in knowing that Dalton will be out next election...

[jhunter]

The liberals are not fulfilling their promises. They have a very good, and large, excuse: the PC party lied about the government finances directly before the election. Now, if it were me who was elected into office after that, I'd be calling for an inquiry...and hold each PC responsible in contempt, and ensure they are never allowed to be an MPP again.

Not only that, but Dalton and his Cabinet are being fined every year they have a deficit. Their budget has a long term forecast to finally balance the books by the next election. Explain to me hows it fair that none of the PC cabinet have been fined for their deficit, or why Eves or Harris are not being labelled as frauds or liars? They were the ones that said the books were balanced when there was $5.6 Billion missing, and its for that lie that the liberals are simply unable to deliver on many of the promises they made...since they suddenly found out they didn't have the money to carry them out.

You want a measure of the Ontario liberal government? Check the public coffers after 4 years. If the books are closer to being managed, and even a smidgeon of liberal policies are implemented, it will be a miracle.

Also, be glad you didn't get another PC government. You can't hide a deficit forever since at some time your creditors want money. As soon as the 'scandal' of a hidden deficit surfaced under PC leadership, we would have been in for anywhere between 1 to 4 years of depression (not repression).

[Wood]

I'm going to agree with the last post the PC government was absolutely terrible in Ontario. Somehow we piled on this HUGE debt that no one was aware of until they left, Health care was continually getting worst, the education system was turning into a bit of a joke in so many areas and beyond that they decided that it was appropriate to find scapegoats like single mothers in order to blame their problems on them.

[condor888000]

While I normally have my views leaning towards the CPC (and old Alliance party) way of thinking, I do think differently on one thing. If you want to have all the nice things we have here in Ontario (or Canada for that matter), like half decent roads and healthcare with no money down, you have to pay taxes. Thats how it is, high taxes=more gov't programs and support (like student loans...) and low taxes=less services. The gov't is cash strapped across the board, and unless we want a US style healthcare system, we gotta fork out a little more taxes. Thats how it is, unless we hit the jackpot of oil up north or something, we're going to have to pay taxes, like it or not.

And last but not least...in the upcoming federal election....vote CPC!!! They're the only hope we have left for Canada.

For the feederal election, here's what the parties major platforms are:

Liberal: We always win, why throw away your vote on someone else?
Conservative: Go west Go! Screw the liberals!
NDP: We need to increase spending on everything without raising taxes!
Bloc: Screw you guys, I'm going home! TO SEPERATE!

[chrischu]

Now the Liberals are running a smear campaign on Steven Harper:

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CC

[piper]

Now the Liberals are running a smear campaign on Steven Harper:

StevenHarperSaid.ca

CC

And you know why they're doing that? Because they know that this time they have a chance of losing, and Mr. Martin will do anything to keep his job as PM. Yes, the PC screwed up Ontario and the Liberals may be able to fix it, but as a federal gov't, the Liberals have gone way passed their time.

[Wood]

And you know why they're doing that? Because they know that this time they have a chance of losing, and Mr. Martin will do anything to keep his job as PM. Yes, the PC screwed up Ontario and the Liberals may be able to fix it, but as a federal gov't, the Liberals have gone way passed their time.

I'll give them four more years, at least then Bush will be gone for sure. I'm not looking forward to Comservatives buddying up to him. And perhaps unnecessarily risking the lives of Canadian soldiers and cities.

[Ching]

And last but not least...in the upcoming federal election....vote CPC!!! They're the only hope we have left for Canada.

Yeah, cause the Conservatives did such a good job of governing Ontario for the past 8 years... I'll be sure to vote for them for many years to come! {!}

[condor888000]

I'll give them four more years, at least then Bush will be gone for sure. I'm not looking forward to Comservatives buddying up to him. And perhaps unnecessarily risking the lives of Canadian soldiers and cities.

Yeah, but Martin is talking about doing the same thing.

[Insane Power Pilot]

Jesus Tak, where does it end? You should just move to another country for christ sake,

That's my plan! Not for a long time though!

I think the issue should be that McGuinty promised during the election not to raise taxes and I'd guess he was elected on that promise. I don't know what the whole budget is all about, but I heard they did raise the liquor tax to up the price of a dozen beer by 45 cents, just in time for BBQ season. Clearly a cash grab and it's going to hurt the industry that I work for and love.

Why can't everybody follow Alberta's shining example of slash and burn budgeting? Sure our services have taken a dive, but I can't wait until 2005 when our debt is gone and the province has the billions of dollars they normally put toward the debt plus whatever they were paying in interest at their disposal. What a time to be alive!

[condor888000]

We all know why alberta doesn't have high beer taxes. If they did how could Klien stay as drunk as he is?