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Hoots
24th October 2004, 12:05
a Local british paper is running an article called operation clark county. In this, UK readers write to there conterparts in the US to advise on the forecoming US Presidentual election. Some of the responces are shown below,

Here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1329858,00.html)

Just wondering if any other US or for that matter any other nationals feel the same way about British people (you alliey)

piper-from-camp
24th October 2004, 14:13
You brits are great people and all and you make superb beer ;) , but I think this interference in the US election is uncalled for. How would these people feel if Clark County did this in their national election? I think its a bad idea and has raised the hackles of even more Americans. And thats not needed. Then again, the US has become involved in the power-struggles of other nations before, maybye there is a subliminal message behind this campaign, I don't know. But still, bad idea. Just look at the responses it got. Although, lets not let them forget who won in 1812.

Juice
24th October 2004, 14:28
You brits are great people and all and you make superb beer ;) , but I think this interference in the US election is uncalled for. How would these people feel if Clark County did this in their national election? I think its a bad idea and has raised the hackles of even more Americans. And thats not needed. Then again, the US has become involved in the power-struggles of other nations before, maybye there is a subliminal message behind this campaign, I don't know. But still, bad idea. Just look at the responses it got. Although, lets not let them forget who won in 1812.

I think that the world shuld have a say in the American election, seeing as how the US tends to stick its nose in other countries' business. They should get over it and quit being hypocrites. it's not like the British are trying to sabotage it, they are just expressing their opinion, which is within their rights to do so. If the US is going to affect the world in the manner it has in the past, then the world should at least be allowed to express their like or dislike for the leaders of the US and their decisions.

Bando Commando
24th October 2004, 14:42
STAY OUT OF OUR AFFAIRS!!!
I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!


Hmmmm...don't you think perhaps, that Sadam Hussain might have been saying the same thing a little while ago?

Thats the thing about Americans. Everything is "We controll everything, we'll do what we want" however, when someone tries to throw it in their faces, Oh well, "Lets forward this to the CIA". No one is telling them who to vote for. Just trying to say, Hey! We don't want Bush. Why would you? Its perhaps something to ponder more than anything.

Hoots
24th October 2004, 15:29
i do see where the discontent in the certain "interference" is taking place, but it isnt interfering, in so much as about letters from Brits advising.

But when you then see that the US are calling on the Men and Women of the British Black Watch Regiment to replace the US forces in Baghdad who wont to move on to Faluja, Which some are saying is a political move to help the US election rather then a strategic move, Isnt that "interfering". I dont think you will get many people from Clark County saying get out of our zone u "yellow teethed Limies". You would never guess the UK is the US's closest alliey

PWRR British Cadet
24th October 2004, 15:43
A little off topic. But i feel so sorry for those guys in the BlackWatch.. they've been asked to go move north near baghdad.. yeah fairenough they're troops they go where they are told to, and i have every confidence that they can do the job... but jesus.. there's a risk that when these gys get back they're going to be amalgamated into somekind of scottish 'super regiment'. Most of the soldiers would be made redundent. Sod that.

Juice
25th October 2004, 04:05
i do see where the discontent in the certain "interference" is taking place, but it isnt interfering, in so much as about letters from Brits advising.

But when you then see that the US are calling on the Men and Women of the British Black Watch Regiment to replace the US forces in Baghdad who wont to move on to Faluja, Which some are saying is a political move to help the US election rather then a strategic move, Isnt that "interfering". I dont think you will get many people from Clark County saying get out of our zone u "yellow teethed Limies". You would never guess the UK is the US's closest alliey

Thats true. If the US is going to tell the British military where to put its troops, then I think that the British people have EVERY right to state their opinion about the election. It's only fair, and if the US people are going to whine and complain about it, then they are just being hypocrites.

piper-from-camp
25th October 2004, 13:15
Alright, let me know when the next British election comes around. I will organise a letter writing campaign to try to influence the outcome of the election by trying to sway undecided voters to the side I want. Sending emails to people unsolicited and not wanted (thats called spamming by the way). Maybye the way the recievers of these letters expressed their opinion was a little extreme, but think how they felt. Oh, and the Brits are members of the coalition. Therefore, they go where the coalition needs them. if they don't want the troops to go, then don't be part of the coalition. However, my support goes to thos Black Watch troops, they're going into a much more dangerous area then what they had in the British AOR. Keeps your heads up guys.

Juice
25th October 2004, 16:57
Alright, let me know when the next British election comes around. I will organise a letter writing campaign to try to influence the outcome of the election by trying to sway undecided voters to the side I want. Sending emails to people unsolicited and not wanted (thats called spamming by the way). Maybye the way the recievers of these letters expressed their opinion was a little extreme, but think how they felt. Oh, and the Brits are members of the coalition. Therefore, they go where the coalition needs them. if they don't want the troops to go, then don't be part of the coalition. However, my support goes to thos Black Watch troops, they're going into a much more dangerous area then what they had in the British AOR. Keeps your heads up guys.

Sure, but a coalition is a partnership. The US seems to think that the Brits are under them and the US is superior to them in the coalition and that British opinion doesnt matter. Im sorry, but thats crap. Coalition=partnership, not one above another. There should be at least some consoltaion before just telling the Brits to send their troops into conflict, rather than just orders given and no one allowed to question them.

Again, the US has such an influence on the world, I think the people of the world have every right to have a say in what they think the election is and who they believe should win. it's just like on this forum, we have been debating the US election, but we are Canadian. DO you think that no Americans read these posts? Dont you think that what we might be saying here could have an influence? Shoudl we stop debating about the US election because what we say might influence others? I dont think so. The US meddles in world affairs and other countries affairs and rarely seems to mind its own business, so to tell other people to mind their own business when an election comes up in the US is just plain hypocritical.

TWoyma
25th October 2004, 17:25
Sure, but a coalition is a partnership. The US seems to think that the Brits are under them and the US is superior to them in the coalition and that British opinion doesnt matter. Im sorry, but thats crap. Coalition=partnership, not one above another.

If you have a unified command structure, someone is in charge. When the Royal Australian Navy was running the blockade line off Iraq prior to Iraqi Freedom, the US Navy vessels taking part were under command of an RAN Commodore. This coalition is a partnership, but it's still a military operation with a chain of command. That means a leader, who in this case is American.

Insane Power Pilot
25th October 2004, 17:44
Again, the US has such an influence on the world, I think the people of the world have every right to have a say in what they think the election is and who they believe should win.

Yes, as long as they do not hold any particularly important political office. Remember when Chretien outright endorsed Gore? That was bad news for our country.

Juice
25th October 2004, 18:18
Well, I think in this case the Brits ahve just cause to be against Bush. They have seen what he has done in the world, and if I were the Brits, i probably would feel the same way, and want to express how I feel. I dont like Bush, i never liked Bush, and i will never endorse his bid for president (not like that really matter, but still). is it wrong for me to express that opinion? I dont think so, and I dont think it is wrong for the Brits to do so either. Like I said, if the US is going to have that kind of an influence on the British people and the British military, then I thik that they have every right to be upset and want to express it. The American people cant get mad at the Brits for expressing their disdane for Bush, especially since Bush has had such an impact in Britain, AND he tries to police the world.

piper-from-camp
26th October 2004, 12:51
Well, I think in this case the Brits ahve just cause to be against Bush. They have seen what he has done in the world, and if I were the Brits, i probably would feel the same way, and want to express how I feel. I dont like Bush, i never liked Bush, and i will never endorse his bid for president (not like that really matter, but still). is it wrong for me to express that opinion? I dont think so, and I dont think it is wrong for the Brits to do so either. Like I said, if the US is going to have that kind of an influence on the British people and the British military, then I thik that they have every right to be upset and want to express it. The American people cant get mad at the Brits for expressing their disdane for Bush, especially since Bush has had such an impact in Britain, AND he tries to police the world.

Then the brits better not be hurt or angry at the responses they get and any reciprocal US response during the next Brit election. Don't get my wrong though, I may be pro-US, but I also like the Brits (some of my roots go back to England and Scotland).

Juice
26th October 2004, 12:54
Then the brits better not be hurt or angry at the responses they get and any reciprocal US response during the next Brit election. Don't get my wrong though, I may be pro-US, but I also like the Brits (some of my roots go back to England and Scotland).

Well, in retrospect, the US has more of an effect on Britain than they have on the US, so I think that the Brits have more of an entitlement to object in the US election than the US has to object to upcoming British elections. But I suppose in all fairness what's good for the goose is good for the gander (not that the US is the fairest nation on the planet).