Iraq

[JGallagher]

Well I know that this is not a New issue, but what I am brining in here is!! I was wondering that is that I am looking to go to Iraq. *Looks at every one dialing the looney bin!!* It is security companins that I am looking for. Not only there but else where in the world. Those that offer employment in hot spots. I want to do good in the world. So if you happen to come accross and in your travels on line please post or PM me.

[Bubblehead]

Jim,
There are much easier ways to get yourself killed. ;) I am sure Detroit is a little closer to home.

[Meathead]

I might have a contact that would be able to get you a job. If you wanna know more just drop me a e-mail.

[Caz]

The types of companies that hire private security in Iraq are usually looking for things like ex-special forces experience.

If you want adventure, Jim, join the RCMP and go rebuild the police force in Haiti.

Or go RegF, and take a tour in Afghanistan. Or volunteer with the International Committee of the Red Cross.

-R.

[The Blue Tory]

What ticks me off...

is the people protesting the war...

the time for protesting has ended, the war's on, it's been on for over a year get over it!

The Americans can not just get up and leave Iraq, especially not in the state it's in right now. If the Americans were to leave right now, someone would seize control of it, and we'd have another Saddam...

You can't start a job, and when it gets hard quits...
When a doctor is performing heart surgery, and something doesn't seem right, the surgeon doesn't just close the patient up without fixing it.
When a police investigation discovers that their main lead is false, they don't just say "screw it" and throw away the case, they finish it, no matter how long it takes!

[Logan]

the protest are more to say you were stupid to go in in the first place don't do it again.

and while yes the US shouldn't leave the job left undone, the people of iraq really don't want them there, and by people i mean the influential people that even Saddam didn't cross.

[The Blue Tory]

the protest are more to say you were stupid to go in in the first place don't do it again.

and while yes the US shouldn't leave the job left undone, the people of iraq really don't want them there, and by people i mean the influential people that even Saddam didn't cross.

Still... if they don't want it to happen again, simple... don't elect Bush again...

What's done is done...

No matter how much they wish, there is no such thing as a time machine that will take the entire world back to March of last year or back to the 2000 election...

The past is the past... it's time to accept it, and to look to the future... If the protestors really want peace, they should organize and try to oust Bush via the next election...

[Logan]

what i love is how 44% of the US population voted for him and 50 some-odd percent voted for Gore and yet Bush still won? go figure. guy that wins the popular vote loses the election

[The Blue Tory]

what i love is how 44% of the US population voted for him and 50 some-odd percent voted for Gore and yet Bush still won? go figure. guy that wins the popular vote loses the election

In Canada, that can happen too, they can win the amount of ridings, thus becoming gov't without the popular vote support

Anyway once the dust settles... I think Iraq will be better off without Saddam

[Logan]

probably will but how long will it be until the next dictator, cause thats what the people of Iraq are used to so it will probably happen again.

on a side note did anyone know that the US supported Saddam when he first came to power?

[The Blue Tory]

probably will but how long will it be until the next dictator, cause thats what the people of Iraq are used to so it will probably happen again.



So were the Russians... they were under Communism for decades, and now they are emerging as a democratic nation...

If the international community assists, the same can happen for Iraq

[Logan]

difference is the russians changed willingly under demand by the people of the country, Iraq did not they had it forced upon them by the US

[The Blue Tory]

difference is the russians changed willingly under demand by the people of the country, Iraq did not they had it forced upon them by the US

I say give it some time... Let the Americans finish off their work...

[Logan]

I say give it some time... Let the Americans finish off their work...
if they don't get kicked out by the properly elected government before that happens.

and iraq did actually have an electoral parliment with a prime minister before the US went in its just the Saddam had absolute power over the country and they had to agree with what he told them to do. so there was some democracy there before the invasion it just didn't have very much power.

[Xiang]

what i love is how 44% of the US population voted for him and 50 some-odd percent voted for Gore and yet Bush still won? go figure. guy that wins the popular vote loses the election

Actually that's 47.9% (Bush) vs. 48.4% (Gore). Add to the fact that the last US president who lost his home state and still won the election would have been...Buchanan, I think...it was the early to mid 1800s I can guarantee that much.

As for the winning popular vote, and losing the election, it's not the first time that has happened, it's the fourth. Though I doubt anything will be done about it in the near future.

[Anzac Angel]

Jim..
You know exactly how i feel about this..

I realise that its what you want to do..

I have to agree with jeremy..

There are easier ways of getting killed.. :(

Cheers
angie

[Insane Power Pilot]

Actually that's 47.9% (Bush) vs. 48.4% (Gore). Add to the fact that the last US president who lost his home state and still won the election would have been...Buchanan, I think...it was the early to mid 1800s I can guarantee that much.

Connecticut, right? I thought he grew up in Houston, though. Anyway, I think the odds are stacked in his favour...he was the first governor of Texas to ever be elected to consecutive terms. At the moment, his approval rating is the lowest it has ever been, but Clinton's approval rating never climbed out of the 40% range and he was re-elected in a landslide.

And for those who think Russia is a democratic society, take a look at Monday's news. Linky (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,11538,1185943,00.html)

[wb256]

So were the Russians... they were under Communism for decades, and now they are emerging as a democratic nation...

If the international community assists, the same can happen for Iraq


lol, and Russia under capitalism is ssooooo much better! Many of the people who lived there under stalin's time say they prefered his rule to the currnt government. At least with him, you knew who you were in danger from (stalin, and his henchmen). Now you're running from the Mafia, petty criminals and the government. The area is relativly lawless, and many people are sinking deeper and deeper into poverty. But they can vote...yay!

You're also assuming that capitalism and democracy go hand in hand (they don't, they're two completely different things).

The USA isn't just forcing democracy on Iraq (yes, forcing it...not everyone WANTS a democracy), they are also forcing an economic model on the country. This could be very bad...especially given the example of Russia.

[Logan]

The USA isn't just forcing democracy on Iraq (yes, forcing it...not everyone WANTS a democracy), they are also forcing an economic model on the country.
what I ment when I said forcing it upon them was that the people of Iraq didn't really have a say in the matter the US came in over throwed the old reigm and said this is how your country will be run.

[Insane Power Pilot]

Did they really have a say in the old regime though?

[grass_roots]

Well, as it's alreay been said, there are better ways to get yourself killed Jim ;)

The Canadian International Development Agency and a slew of other Canadian NGOs are always looking for able volunteers and skilled workers for overseas postings/internships for work that does a heck of a lot more good than can be done with guns. If ya want any links or contacts just give me a shout.

[Logan]

Did they really have a say in the old regime though?
they had an elected assembly that didn't have a lot of power but had some much like the russian Duma (i think thats what the name was) under the Czar. while the czar had absolute power over russia the Duma had a small amount of power it could exercise over small and petty things but nothing on an overly large scale. and there were elections for president its just no one would run against Saddam (wasn't a very good idea for their health if you know what i mean) and he won by default.

[BMaloney]

"Did they have a lot of say in the old regime" can be countered by "Do they have any say in the CURRENT regime?".

Also, let the Americans clean up their mess. Bush went against TOTAL international opposition and now he's paying for his willingness to poke his own eyes out. What goes around comes around.

[Logan]

and further news in iraq

U.S. warplanes strike Fallujah, 26 Iraqis killed (http://www.canada.com/victoria/story.asp?id=4201D9D3-C033-46C6-9C11-611027D2CE29)

Up to a dozen U.S. marines may be dead in Ramadi, Iraq attack (http://www.canada.com/victoria/story.asp?id=2C701036-63A3-4F41-83B8-E8CF0ABFFB43)

just seems to get worse and worse over there

[Insane Power Pilot]

Also, let the Americans clean up their mess. Bush went against TOTAL international opposition

I don't think so...that's just not true.

[JGallagher]

Well I am not looking to get killed!! I want to be safe. I just want to do some thing that may be worth while!! The reason I did not go Reg Force is because of past health problems. This being Asthma!! If I go Police like I am hoping to do soon. It will be OPP!!

[The Blue Tory]

Wow! Iraq all of a sudden got worse... this is turning really ugly

[Logan]

US is attacking a city right now its like the wars back on

[Tomtom]

People,

Please keep in mind that CadetWorld is an international community, with members from all over the world. When posting, keep this in mind.

We are off to a good start in this forum, lets keep it under control. I want the international community to actually want to come to the International Issues forum!

This is just a friendly reminder that insults or negative comments towards other nationalities are not acceptable. Valid agruments are ALWAYS acceptable, just watch how you present them.

If for some reason I believe you are "crossing the line" I will contact you via PM. Until then, these little reminders are just that. Don't take it personally, but be on the alert.

Thank you and enjoy your time at II.

[Lancaster]

to be honest "war on iraq" - ive not looked into it, i leave this up to the people involed, i dont want to get into the story lol

for the best :o

[wb256]

People,

Please keep in mind that CadetWorld is an international community, with members from all over the world. When posting, keep this in mind.

We are off to a good start in this forum, lets keep it under control. I want the international community to actually want to come to the International Issues forum!

This is just a friendly reminder that insults or negative comments towards other nationalities are not acceptable. Valid agruments are ALWAYS acceptable, just watch how you present them.

If for some reason I believe you are "crossing the line" I will contact you via PM. Until then, these little reminders are just that. Don't take it personally, but be on the alert.

Thank you and enjoy your time at II.


Wow, who died and made you in charge? :p

[JGallagher]

Wow, who died and made you in charge? :p



That was uncalled for!! This was not meant to be a debate on the Iraq War!! Go back to my first post and see what I had said!! I was asking about Security Companies that are there!! Not only Iraq but in other places!! Some of you did say stuff about it but alot started talking about the war!! At no time other then not did I even mention the war!!

[Tomtom]

Wow, who died and made you in charge? :p


I don't know if anyone died...

But I am certainly incharge.




;)

[The Blue Tory]

That was uncalled for!! This was not meant to be a debate on the Iraq War!! Go back to my first post and see what I had said!! I was asking about Security Companies that are there!! Not only Iraq but in other places!! Some of you did say stuff about it but alot started talking about the war!! At no time other then not did I even mention the war!!

Oops... my bad on that...

[Meathead]

Tom,

Why does your location still say CFB Pet.....please dont tell me you signed up for another contract.

[Tomtom]

Tom,

Why does your location still say CFB Pet.....please dont tell me you signed up for another contract.


Hey buddy!

Nope, I didn't. But I still have 2 months left on my BE. I'm starting to pack up, and I'm about to start my out clearnance.

Toronto, here I come!

[JGallagher]

I asked about work companies!! Not all this!!

[The Blue Tory]

I asked about work companies!! Not all this!!

Right now, it would be way to risky to start or bring a security company there...

[Meathead]

Good. You had me all scared there for a second.



Hey buddy!

Nope, I didn't. But I still have 2 months left on my BE. I'm starting to pack up, and I'm about to start my out clearnance.

Toronto, here I come!

[JGallagher]

Right now, it would be way to risky to start or bring a security company there...


There are plenty there already. Some have already been killed and there boddies drug through the street and hung from a bridge!! A Canadian with a Private Security Company was killed what, 3 weeks ago!!

[Tomtom]

There are plenty there already. Some have already been killed and there boddies drug through the street and hung from a bridge!! A Canadian with a Private Security Company was killed what, 3 weeks ago!!

There are private security companies overseas, but they are nothing other than NGO's.

You're chances of being hired by one of these companies with your background is slim to none. They are looking for former ETF Police Officers and Military members who have the training and experience in a theatre to be able to do the job correctly.

Jim on a side note, sometimes threads change topics. It's a fact of life. Don't take it personally, it will sooner or later get back on topic, or be closed.

[Anzac Angel]

There is a god( side note, i have always known there is a higher being!!)

Iraq is a no go for jim

Thank you god..

Cheers
angie