Phony Social Workers

[RatherBeFlyin]

So what are your opinions on the 2 women how have been going around parts of Nova Scotia impersonating Social Workers and stripping people's children checking for bruises and whatnot? All I can say is that if they were ever to show up at any of the houses that I babysit at while I was babysittind, I'd pretend to be friendly and invite them into the living room and go into the kitchen and make them coffee, and while they sat there and talk to the kids, I'd keep a close eye as I was making the coffee to make sure that they didn't do anything too drastic to the children, then i'd pick up the phone, speak in a low voice, and call the cops.

[N. McKay]

All I can say is that if they were ever to show up at any of the houses that I babysit at while I was babysittind, I'd pretend to be friendly and invite them into the living room and go into the kitchen and make them coffee, and while they sat there and talk to the kids, I'd keep a close eye as I was making the coffee to make sure that they didn't do anything too drastic to the children, then i'd pick up the phone, speak in a low voice, and call the cops.

Why would you let anyone into a home where you were babysitting if you thought they were dangerous enough to warrant calling the police?

[RatherBeFlyin]

Why would you let anyone into a home where you were babysitting if you thought they were dangerous enough to warrant calling the police?

They're not dangerous, they're just phony. All of the reports that the police got were just that they came in, stripped the children, and just looked for marks and bruises. No physical harm or molestation or anything like that. However if they had firearms when they were at the door, I wouldn't let them in. Otherwise I'd let them in, and call the cops so that they could be arrested and charged for fraud. They impersonated socila workers. They aren't real ones, that's fraud, that's illegal.

[Bright Eyes]

If you're going to report issues in this forum please make your initial post a little less than totally biased. How do you expect a good soup when you use spoiled broth?

[Dick]

I wouldnt let them in at all... Im sure 2 butch women could take ya even if they didnt have firearms. I'd just not let them in, then call the police.

[N. McKay]

They're not dangerous, they're just phony. All of the reports that the police got were just that they came in, stripped the children,

I'd call that dangerous.

[RatherBeFlyin]

If you're going to report issues in this forum please make your initial post a little less than totally biased. How do you expect a good soup when you use spoiled broth?



Bias ia all around. If you can't except it, then don't read it.

[RatherBeFlyin]

I'd call that dangerous.

Yeah if they were molesting them or taking pictures.

[N. McKay]

Yeah if they were molesting them or taking pictures.

I think I would consider any stranger taking a child's clothing off, or causing it to be taken off, to be dangerous (regardless of the taking or not of pictures). Further, anyone who would let an unknown person into the house he or she is looking after as a babysitter risks endangering the house and the children.

For those who babysit: if someone you don't know comes knocking at the door claiming to be a social worker, or anything else, the best course of action is to leave them outside while you call the police. A real social worker will not object to this, while a fraudulent one will probably bugger off rather quickly.

Anyway, to answer the original question, this is the first I've heard of it. If it's as described above, the people involved are criminals who belong, and almost certainly will end up, behind bars -- however well-intentionned their motives may be.

[Tomtom]

For those who babysit: if someone you don't know comes knocking at the door claiming to be a social worker, or anything else, the best course of action is to leave them outside while you call the police. A real social worker will not object to this, while a fraudulent one will probably bugger off rather quickly.


It is not uncommon to have a police escort, in the course of CAS duties.

[Meathead]

I know in Edmonton the EPS has what they call CART cars. Its just a cop and a social worker. Thats the only way Social workers will go to abuse calls. From a "policing" perspective DO NOT let people you may think is phoney into your house. Its a lot easier to help you if they are trying to break into your house then it is if they are already in your house.

[RatherBeFlyin]

Hmmm, I guess it would all Depend mostly on my mood. The question is though, why would anyone do that? Why would someone impersonate a socia; worker if they weren't really one? What's the point?

[Dick]

Hmmm, I guess it would all Depend mostly on my mood. The question is though, why would anyone do that? Why would someone impersonate a socia; worker if they weren't really one? What's the point?
I'm guessing to take pictures of naked children...

There are sickos out there ya know.

[M Lambert]

they dont have to be right out in the open photographing and molesting children to be paedo's. These people may be "phoney" but the fact is what they do IS paedophilia. Anyone suspecting something like this should call the police imediatly, and if it is not endangering to yourself or others, try and remove them from anyone they could hurt (i.e. get them out)

[wb256]

What do you think people are going to think of this? I really fail to see how you'd expect anyone respond "I think it's great that people are finally tricking babysitter's into letting them strip their kids and look at their naked bodies".

I don't really think this is much of an "issue" though. Small crimes like this happen, but it's not something that's a major concern really. Just sounds like more fear feeding media garbage.

"be afraid, be very afraid. are THESE people after YOUR children? Stay tuned until the end to find out if they are, and how to stop them".

My parents have yet to watch one of those CBS specials on child abduction, etc and I still remainded fine. Maybe as a child I just wasn't attractive enough to abduct or molest. Or maybe the media is taking a non-issue of isolated cases and turning it into an issue to sell more papers and raise ratings.

In response to some responses, I would NEVER allow people to inspect the naked bodies of children I was babysitting. If the parents didn't say someone would be stopping by to see them, no one would be allowed in. By letting them in you still risk emotional and psychological trauma to the child when he initally stripped the kid. Maybe the cops would catch him after, but only after the kids who were your responsibility had been molested.

Also, if they were carrying firearms, I doubt they'd have them on display. Most crimals I know don't walk around flashing their guns, they end up in jail that way. I know when I see a plain clothed guy carrying a gun I don't immediatly assume "he musr work for child and family services". And if they did have them on display, you may not have much of a choice as far as letting them in goes (as windows can be climed through, or you shot through them).

[RatherBeFlyin]

Ok ok, i'm going to start this topic with a different question now. So the 1st post I made in this thread isn't the issue now. As far as those women go, I only have one question floating in my mind and I want to know what everyone else thinks.

So why do you think they'd impersonate social workers???

[N. McKay]

So why do you think they'd impersonate social workers???

Because they like looking at naked children, and it's understandably and justifiably difficult to do that without deceit? Only my guess, since I'm not familiar with the situation.

[RatherBeFlyin]

Because they like looking at naked children, and it's understandably and justifiably difficult to do that without deceit? Only my guess, since I'm not familiar with the situation.

Why would any person get joy out of looking at naked children?

[M Lambert]

because they have it in their brain a pschological system that means that they feel this is a good thing to do. It may be any number of things, from the "power" they think they have over the vulnerable children to the thrill they may get of pretending they are really looking out for these kids.

Whatever it is, any adult person who willfully looks at naked minors is a paedophile, that said they should be castrated and hung by their toes from a very tall building by a very weak piece of thread.

[RatherBeFlyin]

because they have it in their brain a pschological system that means that they feel this is a good thing to do. It may be any number of things, from the "power" they think they have over the vulnerable children to the thrill they may get of pretending they are really looking out for these kids.

Whatever it is, any adult person who willfully looks at naked minors is a paedophile, that said they should be castrated and hung by their toes from a very tall building by a very weak piece of thread.

Yeah but before they are casterated they should be stripped down and shoved into a cage and tortured.

[Dick]

Yeah but before they are casterated they should be stripped down and shoved into a cage and tortured.
Rope you up and put you in a bamboo cage and make you feel all my rage
Poke you with a little stick till you page your buddies to come napalm me

[Bright Eyes]

So shut the paedofiles up in a large asylum, call it a "Home for the Incurables" and treat them like cattle along with the other invalids. You know ... the schizophreniacs, the depressed, the maniacs ...

Crazy people don't deserve to be helped ... it's their own fault that they're crazy.


:rolleyes: Where are you from? The 50's?

[wb256]

Exactly Brandy...while we're at it, let's treat the physically disabled like the mentally disabled. Costs too much to build wheelchair ramps anyways, so I say we just gas them all.

Wait, I think someone thought of this before. Something about a "life unworthy of life" campaign.

Next came the jews and gypsies and jehova's witnesses.

[M Lambert]

aye - so you like the people who think that taking advantage of young children, then possibly killing them as its the only way they see to avoid the law?

Maybe refferring to people who have a just hatred of such people as Nazi's or Hitler isnt the best way to go about it.

[Tomtom]

Maybe not. But, to avoide the fact that they may have a mental illness that is far beyond our control or understanding, can not be ignored either.

[M Lambert]

that sort of thing is not a mental illness - it is a mental pattern though. an illness makes the person incapable of something - these people are often completely capable in all areas - just simply gain plasure through a taboo.

[Tomtom]

I looked for an hour on the net... can't find anything concrete... so I will take your word for it.

[wb256]

aye - so you like the people who think that taking advantage of young children, then possibly killing them as its the only way they see to avoid the law?

Maybe refferring to people who have a just hatred of such people as Nazi's or Hitler isnt the best way to go about it.


I didn't defend pedophellia, what I said was hatred of those commiting it is wrong. Obviously it's an awful thing, but hating someone who's sick isn't going to make the problem go away. Helping cure them is.

[Ching]

Warren's my hero. :)

[Insane Power Pilot]

It's a lot tougher to cure their victims, though...

[wb256]

Either way, hatred never helps solve anything. How does hating pedophiles help cure victims?

I don't hate these people, I feel deeply sorry for them that they have such an intense problem.

Also, I'm not sure if your definition of illness vs pattern is completely correct.

Mental disabilities make you unable to do something I believe, whereas a mental illness would be something like pedophellia (just what I was always told).