Alberta Dept free

[Carter]

Canada's wealthest province is dept free as of 12 Jul 2004.

[Bando Commando]

Oh no! What will Alberta do without its Departments??? :eek:

Good job on clearing the debt, though. Wish Ontario could do that...*shakes fist at Premier*

[Nick]

It's called white-out.




Oh no! What will Alberta do without its Departments??? :eek:

Good job on clearing the debt, though. Wish Ontario could do that...*shakes fist at Premier*

[The Blue Tory]

Oh no! What will Alberta do without its Departments??? :eek:

Good job on clearing the debt, though. Wish Ontario could do that...*shakes fist at Premier*
darn he got to it first...

the challenge is staying out of debt, when the price for oil drops

[BMaloney]

Well I guess with all that money Mr. Klein could drop his little healthcare scheme.

[jhunter]

Wish Ontario could do that...*shakes fist at Premier*

You see, we can't because we have a lack of something called "Oil". If we had lots of it, we could pay of our debts. Also, Ontario owes something like $142 billion in debt. It's estimated that the debt will rise to $148 billion with our current liberal government. If we kept the PC government, the debt would have been closer to $151 billion.

[The Blue Tory]

his plan isn't about money, its about decreasing waiting lines for those who are willing to pay

[Dick]

now you can give the rest of canada more money :)

[Carter]

now you can give the rest of canada more money :)


Allready has been done. Canada robbed us of money a few times allready.

[The Blue Tory]

hence one of the reasons why Alberta has some seperatists

[jhunter]

hence one of the reasons why Alberta has some seperatists

New competition: funniest reason for Alberta seperation. Post replies here. Go.

[jhunter]

The Albertan Seperation Federation

3,064,249 Albertans, probably just as many hunting rifles. We don't want to register them.

This has been an unpaid message from the Albertan Seperation Federation.

[Neo]

The Albertan Seperation Federation

3,064,249 Albertans, probably just as many hunting rifles. We don't want to register them.

This has been an unpaid message from the Albertan Seperation Federation.

Any relation to the Newfoundland Separation Foundation?

"If you can mark an 'X' you are my kind of people" - Jerry Boyle, This Hour has 22 Minutes

[The Blue Tory]

The Albertan Seperation Federation

3,064,249 Albertans, probably just as many hunting rifles. We don't want to register them.

This has been an unpaid message from the Albertan Seperation Federation.
thats more than the CF!! lol

[Ching]

Any relation to the Newfoundland Separation Foundation?

"If you can mark an 'X' you are my kind of people" - Jerry Boyle, This Hour has 22 Minutes
I LOVED that sketch! LOL
Awesome!

[Insane Power Pilot]

Our debt was never really that much actually. At its worst, it was $22.4 billion in 1994. I don't know just how much money is being saved from not having debt-servicing costs...the Alberta government website is a little vague on that. But here's how I would spend the money.

25% to new tax cuts
20% to municipalities
30% for infrastructure (new roads and rails, and to repair the existing ones which are falling apart...)
10% for education
10% for health care
5% to other areas

[Ching]

What are the taxes here? I lost like $200 off of my paycheque to taxes!! It wasn't that much in Ontario!
Congrats on being debt free though, Alberta. Rock on. Maybe put some of that non-debtedness towards fixing up all the damage from that hailstorm last weekend! :eek: holy crap, what a storm!

[Dick]

What are the taxes here? I lost like $200 off of my paycheque to taxes!! It wasn't that much in Ontario!
Congrats on being debt free though, Alberta. Rock on. Maybe put some of that non-debtedness towards fixing up all the damage from that hailstorm last weekend! :eek: holy crap, what a storm!
Thats federal taxes... Albertan's have to pay that too. That's the cost of being a Canadian citizen :)

[Carter]

Maybe put some of that non-debtedness towards fixing up all the damage from that hailstorm last weekend! :eek: holy crap, what a storm!

I totaly agree. West Ed after being flooded ,was up the next day.

[The Blue Tory]

I totaly agree. West Ed after being flooded ,was up the next day.
I think Peterborough's getting it worse though

[BMaloney]

You mentioned Alberta is Canada's wealthiest province up there in the first post. Can anyone provide any numbers to back that up?

[Insane Power Pilot]

You mentioned Alberta is Canada's wealthiest province up there in the first post. Can anyone provide any numbers to back that up?

GDP Per Capita - 2001 (http://www.bcbc.com/download.asp?file=GVRD_SRI_Oct2202&type=pdf)

You'll have to scroll down a little to see it. If you want more recent data...too bad, that's the best I could do. The internet is one huge hole of useless information. :cool:

[Caz]

Wealthiest may be up for debate, but we're the only ones who are fiscally solvent ;)

The trick will be to continue to diversify the Alberta economy, and put away those billion-dollar oil royalty cheques for the rainy day fund.

And some more money to train more medical doc's would be nice, to. I can throw a rock and hit three chiropractors from my house, but good luck finding a GP actually accepting new patients.

[Carter]

but good luck finding a GP actually accepting new patients.

Gosh...it is insane. Thank god I have one.

[The Blue Tory]

Wealthiest may be up for debate, but we're the only ones who are fiscally solvent ;)

The trick will be to continue to diversify the Alberta economy, and put away those billion-dollar oil royalty cheques for the rainy day fund.

And some more money to train more medical doc's would be nice, to. I can throw a rock and hit three chiropractors from my house, but good luck finding a GP actually accepting new patients.
forget finding one accepting patients

good luck finding one at all

[Carter]

forget finding one accepting patients

good luck finding one at all


You mean in Ontario??

[AthleticInstructor]

Alberta still needs to put some money in the bank. So saying Alberta dept free is politicaly uncorrect.However they do have the money.

[Caz]

Alberta still needs to put some money in the bank. So saying Alberta dept free is politicaly uncorrect.However they do have the money.
Well, I'm sure if you look at the balance sheet, there are still liabilities - just like any entity. But they aren't due to the debt. It's gone. Finito. Poof.

So, why am I still paying health care premiums? :mad:

[jgoguen]

So, why am I still paying health care premiums? :mad: Well if that's your biggest complaint, I'm packing up and moving to Alberta :D

[AthleticInstructor]

Well, I'm sure if you look at the balance sheet, there are still liabilities - just like any entity. But they aren't due to the debt. It's gone. Finito. Poof.

So, why am I still paying health care premiums? :mad:


I am interpeting from the Gov of Alberta. In their own ways. ;)

[N. McKay]

So, why am I still paying health care premiums? :mad:

So that the first thing they do when you turn up in the emergency room is take your pulse, not look for your credit cards.

[Flyguy]

New competition: funniest reason for Alberta seperation. Post replies here. Go.*not really a separation joke, but still funny*

From Jeffrey Simpson's column in the Globe and Mail, Sat 24 JUL 04:

Why don't BC and Alberta combine to create a new province: Columberta.

Ralph could play golf all year round, we'd get more mountain resorts and an ice-free port while BC would get oil-revenues and have a non-DUI premier.

There are more, but I can't find the link at the moment.

[Insane Power Pilot]

And some more money to train more medical doc's would be nice, to. I can throw a rock and hit three chiropractors from my house, but good luck finding a GP actually accepting new patients.

Throwing more money into it won't necessarily solve the problem. Caz, I share many classes with so-called "pre-meds" (or meddlers as I call it) and I'd say about 4 out of every 5 want to go that route for the money, or because they think they're so much better or smarter than everyone else. The other 1 out of 5 is doing it for the "right" reasons.

The province needs to provide the incentive to go into the family medicine practice. It costs a bundle in tuition fees for the MD program, but it's easy as pie to get student loans or lines of credit. You can pay off your debt in about 6 months (assuming you worked during the summers and/or picked up some scholarships) if you specialize. GPs have to build a practice, hire staff, and all that crap before they can even start earning a pay cheque. The last time I checked, they made in the neighbourhood of $22 for every patient they see. You also have to pay your nurse and your office staff and the lease on your office with that money though. It's not so bad if you're sharing an office with 2 or 3 other docs. Anyway, I've deviated from my original point, which is that family medicine is certainly very unattractive compared to other practices MDs can go into.

Now, I understand that people are a little paranoid in our SARS-West Nile society, but they really should stop going to the doctor every time they get a cold or the flu. If people were actually charged that 22 bucks to see a doctor or billed it to their insurance company, methinks there would be plenty of doctors to go around.

[Caz]

Come on, Neill - all I was getting at was that if this is the wealthiest province, and we don't have any debt - then we shouldn't be the only ones paying health premiums.

That's all :)

[N. McKay]

Come on, Neill - all I was getting at was that if this is the wealthiest province, and we don't have any debt - then we shouldn't be the only ones paying health premiums.

Why not -- you're the only ones not paying provincial sales tax! :D

(And now I understand why. I'd never heard of a health premium before.)

[wb256]

while BC would get oil-revenues and have a non-DUI premier.

lol, it's not like Klien dosn't drink. Maybe not drive (that we know of), but I'm pretty sure he's been known to have a few.

[Caz]

Never heard of one? I'll give you the rundown -

unless you make an obscenely low amount of money, you pay $44/mth premium for provinical health care in Alberta. Get married, it doubles to $88/mth. They don't charge extra if you have kids.

$88/mth is double what I pay for extended benefits through work.

It just... bothers me.