Michael Moore Hates America

[Lil Lightnin]

Watch the trailer:

http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/

Interesting.

[HammerOfHope]

This guy is doing essentially the same thing Moore does in most of his films. He'll make some money, take some criticism and fall back off the radar soon enough.

[piper]

Michael Moore hates anyone who is more controversial then he is.

[wb256]

I'm sure that's a very founded statement, considering he interviewed Marylin Manson and the creater of South Park.

If you're going to criticize the guy, fine. At least use FACTS.

He generally seems to take a disliking to right wing people, regardless of whether they're controversial or not.

[Ching]

Michael Moore doesn't hate America. As a matter of fact, he is quite proudly American and says so. He hates capitolism and other such right-wing nonsense. He is quite open about the fact that he loves his country and his fellow countrymen (except George Bush)

[Loyal Edmonton]

I wouldn't be surprised if michael moore made a film called "Michael wilson and the saudi arabia money connection"

[Ching]

*raised eyebrow*

[Loyal Edmonton]

*raised eyebrow*

remember its always the dog with the shifty eyes!

[Ching]

True enough,...

[Loyal Edmonton]

And this thread is dying! quickly somone inject it with adreniline

[Dick]

And this thread is dying! quickly somone inject it with adreniline
Richard Moore hates America also.

[Ching]

WHAT??? YOu can't!!! YOU CAN"T HATE A WHOLE COUNTRY!!


DUMMY!!

[Loyal Edmonton]

Richard Moore hates America also.

i am assuming there is no relation between you two?

[Dick]

WHAT??? YOu can't!!! YOU CAN"T HATE A WHOLE COUNTRY!!


DUMMY!!I can. And I will. I hate America. Stick that in your pie hole.
sliyt



i am assuming there is no relation between you two?We're brothers... Us bum-buddies gotta stick together...

[Ching]

But it's a COUNTRY. That's like hating a whole pie. Or a tree. Only lots of them.
You're dumb.

[Loyal Edmonton]

what did america ever do to you?

[Dick]

But it's a COUNTRY. That's like hating a whole pie. Or a tree. Only lots of them.
You're dumb.ok sliyt, I don't care. They all stink.


what did america ever do to you?
Kick my dog.

[Loyal Edmonton]

Kick my dog.


Ahh i always thought of it as the mean kid who stole your lunch money

[Ching]

ok sliyt, I don't care. They all stink.

Now that's just a sweeping generalization if I ever heard one! Don't make stereotypes about people, it's not nice.
Stupidhead.

[Bando Commando]

Mr. Moore, I'm with you in the America-hating deal.

SOME Americans are...ok...

Most...no...
Anyone who was on HMCS Ontario Band 2002 would probably know what I think of Americans... ;)

[Ching]

I can't believe I'm reading this crap... Canadians are supposed to be a tolerant people!!

[Dick]

I can't believe I'm reading this crap... Canadians are supposed to be a tolerant people!!
Hahaha I have an ally! You just too much of a hippie.

Canadians are sick of being pushed around... Its time for us to be ignorant too!

[Loyal Edmonton]

Hahaha I have an ally! You just too much of a hippie.

Canadians are sick of being pushed around... Its time for us to be ignorant too!

yah and soon our banks will give out guns

[Dick]

yah and soon our banks will give out guns
In a perfect world.

[Bando Commando]

Canadians are sick of being pushed around... Its time for us to be ignorant too!

VIVE LA RESISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[engineer]

I don’t hate Americans.
I hate American foreign policy.

They think that they can run the world because they are the only major superpower besides china. They caused most of the problems that are threatening them now. Osama was supported by the US in the 70s and the US supported Sadam in the 80s. What the hell is going on in Washington one minute they are buddies is with these “EVIL FORCES” and next they are bombing them because they cant get what they want “oil”. Can anyone tell me what the deficit is in the US I think it is over 1 trillion dollars? Canada should not be seen to close and dependent on America because one day someone will ask for their money and the US won’t have it and American will go under.

[Dick]

Canada should not be seen to close and dependent on America because one day someone will ask for their money and the US won’t have it and American will go under.
I don't really think the world bank works like that. But ok :confused:

[piper]

Ahh yes. Canada. We are the country that covers ourselves with the American Military umbrella to protect us (because our politicians are not willing to support a CF that can), that will trade with them and make money off them. But will scream bloody murder when they do anything we don't like, call their leader a moron and a *******, and thumb our noses at them (especially the Prime Minister, many have seemed to like to do this, Trudeau, Chretien etc) and then get confused when the US cuts trade, puts higher import tariffs on us and cuts us out of long cultivated by the CF intelligence circles, all because our (Liberal) politicians are to 'moronic' and '*******ly' to figure out we need the States, and that maybye we should cooperate more with them then we do now, and maybye even dare to support them more often. I am a proud Canadian (and American beer sucks) but we are the same bloody people and our cultures are almost the same now, so really. Cut the 'I hate america because its cool too do that' BS.

[Loyal Edmonton]

Ahh yes. Canada. We are the country that covers ourselves with the American Military umbrella to protect us (because our politicians are not willing to support a CF that can), that will trade with them and make money off them. But will scream bloody murder when they do anything we don't like, call their leader a moron and a *******, and thumb our noses at them (especially the Prime Minister, many have seemed to like to do this, Trudeau, Chretien etc) and then get confused when the US cuts trade, puts higher import tariffs on us and cuts us out of long cultivated by the CF intelligence circles, all because our (Liberal) politicians are to 'moronic' and '*******ly' to figure out we need the States, and that maybye we should cooperate more with them then we do now, and maybye even dare to support them more often. I am a proud Canadian (and American beer sucks) but we are the same bloody people and our cultures are almost the same now, so really. Cut the 'I hate america because its cool too do that' BS.


cmon everyones doing it

[Dick]

I hate america because its cool to.

[The Blue Tory]

Michael Moore doesn't hate America. As a matter of fact, he is quite proudly American and says so. He hates capitolism and other such right-wing nonsense. He is quite open about the fact that he loves his country and his fellow countrymen (except George Bush)
well then Micheal Moore should be thrown into a time machine (upon its invention) sent back in time about 30 or so years, and booted into Russia...

[piper]

well then Micheal Moore should be thrown into a time machine (upon its invention) sent back in time about 30 or so years, and booted into Russia...

Well, at least it would get rid of him...

[wb256]

Yeah, there's the odd American that's alright, but the rest are all war mongers.

Same with Jews, the odd one is alright, but the majority are all penny pinching cretins.

I don't believe in either of those statements, but the latter is CLEARLY unacceptable. Why would the former be any more acceptable?

Now I know that Dick's comments were clearly in jest, but whoever made that comment about there only being the odd descent American you should REALLY edit you post. Discriminating against people due to their place of Birth is just as ridiculous as discriminating against someone because of their skin colour - something that happens WAY too much in Canada.

It's not alright to hate/mock Jews or Blacks, why Natives and Americans (the two groups it seems to be ok to be racist/prejudice towards).

Now, that being said, I hate American foreign policy.

[wb256]

well then Micheal Moore should be thrown into a time machine (upon its invention) sent back in time about 30 or so years, and booted into Russia...


If you're really ignorant enough to think that anything other than Capitalism translates into stalinist communism then maybe you need to do a bit of reading.

I could write an essay on why that statement was completely unfounded, seriously. Most citizens of Russia now who lived through STalin's reign actually PREFERED STALIN to capitalism today!

At least Stalin kept food on the table and the crime under control. You only had to worry about the government trying to kill you, not the numerous street gangs that ruled the streets. Clearly he wasn't by any means a good leader, but the point is that Capitalism can be just as scary as Communism.

It's the dictatorship aspect that made the USSR so awful. This same type of dictatorship can exist in a capitalist society. Democracy and Capitalism DON'T go hand in hand, just as dictatorship and communism don't go hand in hand (for an undemocratic capitalist state, take a look at Chile under Pinochet).

In fact, I'd personally be more afraid in Capitalist Chile under Pinochet than in the USSR under stalin (and I'm sure Moore would be as well). Anyone who was publically left of center was killed...whereas the USSR would have killed those right of center.

Anyways ed, think before you post. That sounded like a comment off of some lame right wing call in radio show.

[Dick]

(and I'm sure Moore would be as well).Damn straight I would be.;)

[The Blue Tory]

If you're really ignorant enough to think that anything other than Capitalism translates into stalinist communism then maybe you need to do a bit of reading.

I could write an essay on why that statement was completely unfounded, seriously. Most citizens of Russia now who lived through STalin's reign actually PREFERED STALIN to capitalism today!

At least Stalin kept food on the table and the crime under control. You only had to worry about the government trying to kill you, not the numerous street gangs that ruled the streets. Clearly he wasn't by any means a good leader, but the point is that Capitalism can be just as scary as Communism.

It's the dictatorship aspect that made the USSR so awful. This same type of dictatorship can exist in a capitalist society. Democracy and Capitalism DON'T go hand in hand, just as dictatorship and communism don't go hand in hand (for an undemocratic capitalist state, take a look at Chile under Pinochet).

In fact, I'd personally be more afraid in Capitalist Chile under Pinochet than in the USSR under stalin (and I'm sure Moore would be as well). Anyone who was publically left of center was killed...whereas the USSR would have killed those right of center.

Anyways ed, think before you post. That sounded like a comment off of some lame right wing call in radio show.
really, wow {!}

Nice to know that you can differentiate between the two.

Do you want a medal for your comments?

[Ching]

really, wow {!}

Nice to know that you can differentiate between the two.

Do you want a medal for your comments?
:rolleyes:
Nice comeback...

[The Blue Tory]

:rolleyes:
Nice comeback...
it's not to be insulting... it's just a sign that I don't care much for what Micheal Moore does or says, and I don't care much for literalists...

[wb256]

it's not to be insulting... it's just a sign that I don't care much for what Micheal Moore does or says, and I don't care much for literalists...

I'm not being a literalist. Your statement basically implied that anyone who thinks left of center is a Stalinist.

My point was that it wasn't funny, and neither is stealing jokes from callin radio shows.

[DMCorrigan]

really, wow {!}

Nice to know that you can differentiate between the two.

Do you want a medal for your comments?

Play nice.

[The Blue Tory]

1. It was not intended to be funny
2. It was not taken from a right wing call in radio show
3. I never mentioned Stalin or something
4. It was in reference to how he feels he must criticize an elected government, and an elected president, to the point of defiling his name.

Sure he maybe exercising his right to free speech, but his way of doing it, is borderline treasonous...

[FrEakYsAiLoIr]

Hey Hey finally a thread I can sink my Key board into Americans ... just the thought well it's not the people it's there leaders and comon now Everone hates America because they don't know anything about us and yes that kinda ticks me off as well but I mostly hate there anal-retentive, conseair of a leader. Bush is the most Idioic person ever to be give power It was like giving a Insane person a loaded Desert Egeal and say " here noones watching go for it take them out you know you want to.." ....Ok may be I went a little over board but you all se my point Right???

[wb256]

Hey Hey finally a thread I can sink my Key board into Americans ... just the thought well it's not the people it's there leaders and comon now Everone hates America because they don't know anything about us and yes that kinda ticks me off as well but I mostly hate there anal-retentive, conseair of a leader. Bush is the most Idioic person ever to be give power It was like giving a Insane person a loaded Desert Egeal and say " here noones watching go for it take them out you know you want to.." ....Ok may be I went a little over board but you all se my point Right???


You know what I hate? run on sentences.

[Dick]

You know what I hate? run on sentences.
One day those sentences are gonna run all over you. Then you won't be talking ill about them!

[Bando Commando]

Wow...we've gone from attacking the US to attacking people's grammar....

Can't we stick to hating ONE person?? :p

Now I've heared the word TREASON appear. Someone made a movie...their own opinion on something...and they "hate their country".

...some random guy ran outta no where and pie'd the Prime Minister in the face, and thats just a laugh.

Its one thing to express your opinion. Sure it might damage someones rep. Oh no...not like Bush's rep was good in the first place...
Its another thing to assault someone with a pie.

OH NO!!! HE'S GOT A BANANA CREAM PIE!!! ITS AN ASSASINATION ATTEMPT!!!!!!!!

Treason...its not like he's plotting against the Government. He's just telling it as he sees it.

[wb256]

Wow...we've gone from attacking the US to attacking people's grammar....

Can't we stick to hating ONE person?? :p

Now I've heared the word TREASON appear. Someone made a movie...their own opinion on something...and they "hate their country".

...some random guy ran outta no where and pie'd the Prime Minister in the face, and thats just a laugh.

Its one thing to express your opinion. Sure it might damage someones rep. Oh no...not like Bush's rep was good in the first place...
Its another thing to assault someone with a pie.

OH NO!!! HE'S GOT A BANANA CREAM PIE!!! ITS AN ASSASINATION ATTEMPT!!!!!!!!

Treason...its not like he's plotting against the Government. He's just telling it as he sees it.


I apologize, I just couldn't help myself. It was just set up too well for the attack. Just for future reference, anything mean that I say shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Insane Power Pilot]

(and American beer sucks)

Which American beer in particular do you have a problem with? I'm asking because I'll tell you just how much of it is actually brewed in Canada. I've worked with 3 American beers and from a quality control perspective, it is much more consistent than Canadian beer (i.e they have tighter specs and want it to be exactly a certain way.) Flavor profile is completely another thing altogether. I have found that Canadian beer tends to be more bitter and harsh (but not necessarily stronger), while American beer tastes a lot cleaner and is easier to drink, but isn't as robust.

Sorry, I just start asking questions when people say Canadian beer is better with no facts to back it up. :)

[funkyfairy]

We all know Aussie beer is sooo much better....

And no I don't know if I'm basing that on facts other than the one that says I haven't had Canadian beer....

Michael Moore goes out there and provokes, it's what he does, they should just get over it.

[CadetJeff]

Okay, the American opinion. :D

Our deficit was caused because we sink money into every country we try to fix up. This includes France, Germany, Russia, Italy, and Japan to name a few. $3 trillion assisting other countries. If we don't, we have to listen to the UN and everyone else whine at how rude and uncaring Americans are. If everyone has such a problem with our deficit, I want my money back. At least then that deficit can be paid off.

Micheal Moore. I have my opinion. But in the US, everyone is entitled to it. Some opinions (and expression thereof- i.e. murder) is not acceptable by most countries standards. I don't agree 100% with President Bush on many things. But he seems to be the better choice at the moment. If Iraq was such a bad idea, how is stability a bad thing? See, not only does an earlier statement apply to money. If American foriegn policy has something people don't like, they whine and complain at how rude and uncaring Americans are.

Leadership 101: Not everyone will like your choices. And sometimes it takes stepping on some toes to get the job done right. Your mileage may vary...

[seand]

Micheal Moore, gotta love him just so you can hate him! A man totally incapable of getting his head around the fact that there is more than one side to everything.

havent see his new movie yet but I have attempted to read his books and have seen his first movie. I say attempted for a reason, I stopped reading them. Not because I disagreed with him, but due to the fact that all he does is present a totally one sided statement and then back it up with questionable facts in an effort to discredit other people and make himself look intelligent.

I hope he makes enough money and goes away, cos I'm not sure what worsehaving Bush as the President or having Micheal Moore influencing people....

[The Blue Tory]

I hope Elections Canada does go after him...

If they silence the right wing groups they should silence him...

Take a look at the law... its beyond obvious that he broke it... and to allow him to walk away would be hypocritical...

And despite what that left wing (censored) mayor of Sarnia thinks, if he was made an honourary citizen... it wouldn't change any of the facts since he was not a citizen at all when he made the comments...

[offguard96]

how is stability a bad thing?

There will be no stability in Iraq. If you're going to invade a country on lofty principles and trumped up allegations of illicit weapons, you should at least have the balls to ride the wave through an election, instead of risking the lives of all those you've supposedly liberated for a few votes. Either that, or keep your six-shooters strapped to your stupid arrogant Texas waist, and go about freeing people in a legal manner. But, all this is moot, because anyone with a brain and less naivety than a four year old knows damn well that the war was about oil, not lives or freedom or happiness or "weapons of mass destruction".


Leadership 101: Not everyone will like your choices. And sometimes it takes stepping on some toes to get the job done right. Your mileage may vary...

The problem is that Bush would never dream of stepping on the toes of the elite, his "base", as he calls them. However, he does make up for it by stepping on more than just the toes of anyone who can't afford to live like him and hang out with him and make friends with him. A real leader steps on the toes of whoever's in his way, or at least warns them that he is not afraid to do so, so they can move fast from his path. He doesn't go out of his way to step on the toes of those whose feet are easier to mash and mangle.


This includes France, Germany, Russia, Italy, and Japan to name a few.

Panama, Colombia, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Iran, Viet Nam, Iraq, Libya, Saudia Arabia to name a few others that should be higher on that list in terms of the money they absorb. Really though, the money spent in these nations goes (or did go, in the case of Viet Nam) to the following sorts of things:

-Arms sales
-Oil treaties/trade
-Arms dealt to oppress labour uprisings in the fruit industries
-Noriega (and all that jazz)
-Futile war against communism, resulting in widespread massacre of innocent civilians (Viet Nam - My Lai)
-Drug wars that victimize the little guy, not the cartel

Your money's not spent so they can be happy. It's spent so you can spend less on bananas and petroleum. It's also spent so that you can claim moral superiority without ever really having it, as was the case in Viet Nam.


If American foriegn policy has something people don't like, they whine and complain at how rude and uncaring Americans are.

No, we only have the luxury of whining and complaining in the West. Everywhere your policies are in force, the people are oppressed, blown up, shot, burned, imprisoned, tortured, used as slave labour, and forced to live in a police state. The reason you think the only effect of your policies is whining and complaining is because your media would rather cover a local car chase than an AIDS plague that rages through Africa.