Terrorism and Sea Cadets on the BBC

[handisnak]

Hi Sports Fans,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3834987.stm

An interesting ruling - another example of how terrorism has changed life in Canada, not just in the US.

But what I like... is the image! Are those not Royal Canadian Sea Cadets on that ship?

I don't think this thread will get much attention with the federal election in full-swing, but I would agree with what the Supreme Court decided: someone can be forced to testify under extreme circumstances (like a mass terrorist attack) but any individual forced to testify under such circumstances should be able to do so in open court.

[BandBabe118]

But what I like... is the image! Are those not Royal Canadian Sea Cadets on that ship?

I don't think they're sea cadets... whats on the top of their hats??

BL

[Logan]

no those are either irish or french personel, you can tell by the funny blue pompom on the top of their headress.

[Fufu_65]

thats' what i was thinking as well..i wasl iek since when do we have pom poms on our hats!? i wasn't informed..hahah:)

-SS

[offguard96]

Those are Scottish personnel. The Air India bombing the article speaks of, while connected to Canada through the suspects being residents of Canada, occurred over Lockerbie, Scotland. They're probably Scottish Navy personnel helping with cleanup or something of the sort.

[DVessey]

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I don't think this thread will get much attention with the federal election in full-swing, but I would agree with what the Supreme Court decided: someone can be forced to testify under extreme circumstances (like a mass terrorist attack) but any individual forced to testify under such circumstances should be able to do so in open court.

So you want people who are forced to testify to do so in open court? I don't think that's really safe, especially in this kind of situation. Call me paranoid, but in the case of a terrorist attack by a terrorist group, if someone is compelled to testify in open court, then everyone knows who they are, including all the terrorists that are left over.

[Wood]

So you want people who are forced to testify to do so in open court? I don't think that's really safe, especially in this kind of situation. Call me paranoid, but in the case of a terrorist attack by a terrorist group, if someone is compelled to testify in open court, then everyone knows who they are, including all the terrorists that are left over.

It was the prosecution who wanted the court closed for whatever reason, not the witness involved. The court must stay open, the other option would be unthinkable. Justice must not only be done, it must be seen to be done. You can't so severely infringe on the most fundamental right in a democracy and then not allow the public to supervise how you do this. It could very well bring justice into disrepute. Secret court precedings where the participants have their charter rights limited.

The protection of witnesses in anycase needs to be considered, if that's an issue I'm sure it will be dealt with appropriately.

[handisnak]

I didn't notice the pompoms. I thought I saw writing along the sides of the headwear, which lead me to believe...

And yes, the protection of a witness can be arranged.

[the_kingy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/995605.stm

The plane was on its way from Toronto to Delhi via London on 23 June, 1985, when it blew up off the coast of the Irish Republic.

Not Lockerbie that was a differnt attack by Libiyans.

Must make them Irish Naval personnel.

[piper]

Those are Scottish personnel. The Air India bombing the article speaks of, while connected to Canada through the suspects being residents of Canada, occurred over Lockerbie, Scotland. They're probably Scottish Navy personnel helping with cleanup or something of the sort.

There is so such thing as the Scottish navy, nor is there a Scottish Air Force or Army. Those are Irish Navy sailors.

[Earlam]

Lockerbie was Pan Am flight 103 I think..... I'm pretty sure it was Pan Am, anyways.

Scotland is part of the United Kingdom, so they don't have their own military. Scottish personnel would be included in the Royal Navy.

[Logan]

and the Royal Navy wears the same headress as the sea cadets do, the hard white top, where as in countries like ireland and france the navy wears soft versions of the white top with a big blue pom pom on it.

[Flashman]

I'd like a pom-pom, those black ones look pretty snazzy.