Vernon, anyone?

[RyanForbes]

anyone planning on attending Vernon Army CSTC either as staff or course?

i plan on returning as Rifle Coach Plt WO, after being a range staff Sergeant last summer

[spy_me]

i was there last summer during the forest fires in BC, that camp isnt kept very well, and the cadets abouse everything. Lockers, stalls, hallways, everything....

[Agnew]

i was there last summer during the forest fires in BC, that camp isnt kept very well, and the cadets abouse everything. Lockers, stalls, hallways, everything....

That camp is very well kept, considering it's older than you and you father(I think)!! Just cuz you may wake up with a thin coat of dust on you, or the foods under and over cooked(at the same time) doesn't mean it isn't the greatest camp on earth. Plus I am Agnew, and everything I post on CW is inserted into an sql table with its associated topic and post id.

I love Vernon. I could live there..except the winter.. I'd freeze and DIE. I hope to go there. I applied for an exchange, but I kinda hope I don't get no exchange, I want to staff. Probably wont get the exchange anyways. They only seem to accept the brain children of Canada. Never Kevin, who scored low...low...low. Anyways. Yeah, I'm hoping for staff @ Vernon.

[spy_me]

I loved the food, we had our own cooks, so, that wasnt a problem, the buildings were falling apart, that is not well kept. I just think its time for an overhaul for that place.

[RyanForbes]

its been time for an overhaul for 50 years!

but you must admit that other camps have their faults too

ive been to Vernon, Quadra, and Albert Head, and i would say that Vernon is my favourite, even though its missing some things, and needs some new buildings, etc

[K Piper]

I love Vernon. I could live there..except the winter.. I'd freeze and DIE.

Winters in the Okanagan Valley are mild compared to anywhere in the Alberta. Hardly any snow in the town, only up the hills.


I'll be visiting on a semi-regular basis. I wish I could just spend one more summer there.

[RyanForbes]

Winters in the Okanagan Valley are mild compared to anywhere in the Alberta. Hardly any snow in the town, only up the hills.


I'll be visiting on a semi-regular basis. I wish I could just spend one more summer there.

Vernon gets lots of snow in the winter, down in the valley too
in 2002, there was a foot of snow covering the base, with more coming all spring break

[Bugler]

yes, I would agree that cadets at Vernon do have a tendancy to abuse equipment, and soem of the stuff just needs repairs and renovations, But I've been to Blackdown, Connaught, Albert Head, and I think overall ,the facilities at Vernon, and the way it;s set up is the best. (I've also been to a few British cadet camps, now those are cool! :D )

[TBird]

"Abuse Equipment," that's Cadets generally. More over it's Youth. Vernon is terribly kept and will fall down by 2010. It's the only Army Cadet camp that hasn't had some sort of funding infusion since 200, and that includes Blackdown's Tents. It's the worst CSTC I've seen, and I've seen 7. I almost applied to Rocky for the sole reason that Vernon is such a dump.

Anyways I'm HOPING (but not likely) to be a PlWO in Echo (basic), but I'm expecting Sgt.

[RyanForbes]

ya Dane, i doubt you will get a Plt WO position without staff last year...but then again, L&C might get you that edge...

anyways, should be good seein ya this summer, hope Mark gets accepted too

[K Piper]

Vernon gets lots of snow in the winter, down in the valley too
in 2002, there was a foot of snow covering the base, with more coming all spring break


Little late.

The Okanagan does NOT get lots of snow. Maybe in 2002, but not anyother year. I live here ;) .

See Y'all in Vernon!

[K Piper]

yes, I would agree that cadets at Vernon do have a tendancy to abuse equipment, and soem of the stuff just needs repairs and renovations, But I've been to Blackdown, Connaught, Albert Head, and I think overall ,the facilities at Vernon, and the way it;s set up is the best. (I've also been to a few British cadet camps, now those are cool! :D )


You need to go to Rocky Mountain to see a tip top camp.

Lacks tradition though that vernon has. Too bad you can't paint the cannon anymore!

[Agnew]

"Abuse Equipment," that's Cadets generally. More over it's Youth. Vernon is terribly kept and will fall down by 2010. It's the only Army Cadet camp that hasn't had some sort of funding infusion since 200, and that includes Blackdown's Tents. It's the worst CSTC I've seen, and I've seen 7. I almost applied to Rocky for the sole reason that Vernon is such a dump.

Anyways I'm HOPING (but not likely) to be a PlWO in Echo (basic), but I'm expecting Sgt.

Vernon seems to have something... 'new' or 'renovated' each year. Wether it's new windows on the FEMALE or BAND barracks, or new siding on the FEMALE barracks, there seems to be a few updates. I also heard that the band(bravo w/e)barracks(male) didn't smell as bad as in past year.. Maybe they have some new tactic in selecting cadets. Something like a little box on the application forms for basic...

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Anyways.. I still love that camp and I could DIE if I don't get go! I could have like a heart attack or something.. Pick Me!! Pick Me...:'(. Ugh, I wish I wouldn't have been so immature during my CLI year(2002). My course report was quite(QUITE) sub-standard.

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[K Piper]

Vernon seems to have something... 'new' or 'renovated' each year. Wether it's new windows on the FEMALE or BAND barracks, or new siding on the FEMALE barracks, there seems to be a few updates. I also heard that the band(bravo w/e)barracks(male) didn't smell as bad as in past year.. Maybe they have some new tactic in selecting cadets. Something like a little box on the application forms for basic...

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Do you own a bar of soap?
YES 达 | NO 达
Do you plan on bringing AND using this soap if you are selected to go to camp?
YES 达 | NO 达

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Anyways.. I still love that camp and I could DIE if I don't get go! I could have like a heart attack or something.. Pick Me!! Pick Me...:'(. Ugh, I wish I wouldn't have been so immature during my CLI year(2002). My course report was quite(QUITE) sub-standard.

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I was in Basic Band one time. I think the smell had to do with the communal shower. Some people just weren't a fan of it. They got put on shower parade.

Now there's stalls in there, and didn't smell any time i visited. You're probably just going by rumours.


BTW... I was only in band coy ONE year ;)

[TBird]

The new windows are siding are a neccessity that they have to put there. If they didn't 100% have too, they wouldn't. I noticed the band shacks had broken windows when we went to sue them for NSCE this year. It wasn't too cold in there though, good thing or we woulda had a riot :)

[Agnew]

I was in Basic Band one time. I think the smell had to do with the communal shower. Some people just weren't a fan of it. They got put on shower parade.

Now there's stalls in there, and didn't smell any time i visited. You're probably just going by rumours.


BTW... I was only in band coy ONE year ;)

I don't think they were rumours.. I smelt it myself. Band seems to have the worst barracks each year(that I have been). I think it is the wood...gets wet and smells. Maybe not. I dunno, but it seems that it really smells funny. But I don't smell funny.. I swear...:o except the time I jumped in the laundry truck.

BTW... I was only in band for..two years. Yeah, and the stalls are nice little things. I don't like showering with old perverted CLI-ers..when I was a basic. :S

Or..maybe you just left your 'manly man' smell behind..lol.

And Dane...VACSTC is better that DHCHNHITS *!

* DHCHNHITS is Danes House, Cuz He's Not Home In The Summer...

[K Piper]

I don't think they were rumours.. I smelt it myself. Band seems to have the worst barracks each year(that I have been). I think it is the wood...gets wet and smells. Maybe not. I dunno, but it seems that it really smells funny. But I don't smell funny.. I swear...:o except the time I jumped in the laundry truck.

BTW... I was only in band for..two years. Yeah, and the stalls are nice little things. I don't like showering with old perverted CLI-ers..when I was a basic. :S

Or..maybe you just left your 'manly man' smell behind..lol.

And Dane...VACSTC is better that DHCHNHITS *!

* DHCHNHITS is Danes House, Cuz He's Not Home In The Summer...

What years? I knew almost everyone in Band coy minus the basics the years I was in vernon('97-'99?). I was in the band barracks alot. And I was there a few times this past summer. Smelt like anyother barracks that had Basic's and CL's.

You don't get a fresh air smell until CLI! By the time you are half way through CL you have shower lessons.


PS: H10 had a peculiar smell this past summer.

[Agnew]

What years? I knew almost everyone in Band coy minus the basics the years I was in vernon('97-'99?). I was in the band barracks alot. And I was there a few times this past summer. Smelt like anyother barracks that had Basic's and CL's.

You don't get a fresh air smell until CLI! By the time you are half way through CL you have shower lessons.


PS: H10 had a peculiar smell this past summer.

I went 2000 and 01. Yeah, I learned how to shower in basic. And I really grasped the concept in my CL year, along with the 'power shower'. Although..in CLI, power shower goes out, and warm long showers come in. By long, I mean more than a minute, lol. Last day of camp is always the best shower.

H10 should get major renovations. It's always too hot or too cold. Mostly too hot. At least the barracks have some cool spots. The smell I never really noticed. I think it had something to do when our CI told us to triple our dosage of pit stick before coming in the music room. Ahh...yes, wet armpits, that smell like smell... Wasn't around H10 in 2002, and I wasn't accepted for camp in 2003(durn paper pushers..:O).

[K Piper]

I went 2000 and 01. Yeah, I learned how to shower in basic. And I really grasped the concept in my CL year, along with the 'power shower'. Although..in CLI, power shower goes out, and warm long showers come in. By long, I mean more than a minute, lol. Last day of camp is always the best shower.


ahhhhh '01.... Were you Mil or P&D?

[Agnew]

ahhhhh '01.... Were you Mil or P&D?

Mil band. Our corps just recently switched over to P&D, though. I was supposed to go to CLI P&D in 2003, but our contact officer never contacted Edmonton to let them know I would go. Ugh..

[TBird]

ya Dane, i doubt you will get a Plt WO position without staff last year...but then again, L&C might get you that edge...

anyways, should be good seein ya this summer, hope Mark gets accepted too

Russel told me like a year ago that aiming high would be the best route to getting in the general cadre/coy you wanna get in, because if you're cut from Sgt wherever you wanted to go then you're 'up for grabs' so to speak. A WO, however, can stay in the cadre/coy as an Sgt... so that was my justification for WO. And all 6 of us got very good NSCE staff reports and the staffing meeting for VACSTC was 5 days after NSCE :)

[RyanForbes]

hmm, well i agree with aiming high, but still first years dont usually get WO positions...and there are a lot of people coming back this summer

anyways, itll still be good to see everyone again, i had a helluva time over spring break

[K Piper]

Mil band. Our corps just recently switched over to P&D, though.

Then there's almost no chance i'd know you. P&D is better anyways.

[Agnew]

Then there's almost no chance i'd know you. P&D is better anyways.

Meh, I don't think you can say ones 'better' than the other. But the people who are in mil band have to work a lot harder to sound anything near comparable to the P&D. If the mil band was only as dedicated as the P&Ders, there'd be no comparison on who's better.

But reveille just isn't reveille without a trumpet. I think it'd sound like horse doo doo coming from a bag pipe. lol.

[K Piper]

Meh, I don't think you can say ones 'better' than the other. But the people who are in mil band have to work a lot harder to sound anything near comparable to the P&D. If the mil band was only as dedicated as the P&Ders, there'd be no comparison on who's better.

But reveille just isn't reveille without a trumpet. I think it'd sound like horse doo doo coming from a bag pipe. lol.

I'm biased. ;)

I'm between bands in the civvie world right now.

[RyanForbes]

But reveille just isn't reveille without a trumpet. I think it'd sound like horse doo doo coming from a bag pipe. lol.

Last summer, this was all we heard near the end of camp...all the new bag pipers playing reveille

i wasnt too thrilled at that one

[TBird]

Last summer, this was all we heard near the end of camp...all the new bag pipers playing reveille

i wasnt too thrilled at that one

Even at RMNACSTC with all the Level 5 pipers Revielle sounded like a cat being drowned at 3am...

[Agnew]

Even at RMNACSTC with all the Level 5 pipers Revielle sounded like a cat being drowned at 3am...

LOL, probably still woke people up, though.

[RyanForbes]

yes, i do believe that the pipers did their job...whether the cadets liked it or not is a different story

[TBird]

Well when I worked for BC Rail I questioned if they should reaplace a train horn with a piper.

[K Piper]

Now now. If you were a piper how would you feel now:rolleyes:?

[Little Cadet]

Even at RMNACSTC with all the Level 5 pipers Revielle sounded like a cat being drowned at 3am...

And those specific people did not pass their 5's lol!

[TBird]

Now now. If you were a piper how would you feel now:rolleyes:?

That's why I'm a Drummer...

By nature, we're perfect.

[K Piper]

That's why I'm a Drummer...

By nature, we're perfect.

So am I.... If it weren't for the name I'd be a piper.

[TBird]

Somewhat back on topic:

Does anyone know when they mail offers? I'm pretty confident I wouldn't get ******* from staff, but I'd sure like to know what the keck I'm doing (the more I think about it the more luxurious CQMS sounds....)

[Agnew]

I dunno, faster than you can say superfragilisticexpealidocious 350,000 times without messing up..? I don't think I'll get accepted. Don't think...:(. Meh, if I don't get into camp this summer, maybe I'll join Sea Cadets. Or I could just get a real life, lol.

[TBird]

I dunno, faster than you can say superfragilisticexpealidocious 350,000 times without messing up..? I don't think I'll get accepted. Don't think...:(. Meh, if I don't get into camp this summer, maybe I'll join Sea Cadets. Or I could just get a real life, lol.

Tons of staff didn't even have their NSCE last year... and this year they're returning with one year staff and first year NSCE. I'm curious what's gonna happen to peeps like me that are first year staff but have second year NSCE and Senior Course?

[Agnew]

Tons of staff didn't even have their NSCE last year... and this year they're returning with one year staff and first year NSCE. I'm curious what's gonna happen to peeps like me that are first year staff but have second year NSCE and Senior Course?
Or people like me...who are first year staff, have NSCE and are drop dead pretend sexy!

[RyanForbes]

well in a *perfect* world, people without NSCE would be put into the MCpl/clerk positions, first years with NSCE would be put into section commander positions, 2nd year staff and people with advanced courses would be plt WOs

but thats just my world...

[TBird]

It's total BS when they told us at Rocky that we'd be PlWOs the next summer, and I knew it when they said it... I wish they wouldn't lie like that. However, apparently at some camps (Blackdown) where the NSCE Quals are fewer, Senior Courses do help. At Vernon it's just a line of space on your CF51...

[Agnew]

Dane, I could see you getting Plt WO. Just smile a lot(Cuz that's sooo hard for you...{!}) and get your nose 'dirty'. lol.....hah..a..a..

[RyanForbes]

well its April 27, and i just got back from my cadet meeting, and no word on camps at all.

Anyone hear anything at all about vernon?

[TBird]

I heard that the offers should be had by 15 May 04, so I'm guessing 01 July 04. I dunno about you but I heard I was "going to Vernon over Spring Break for staff" about 4 weeks before NSCE, then I found out I was doing NSCE 7 days before, and then I got my Travel Orders on Wednesday night before the Friday we flew out. :rolleyes:

[RyanForbes]

well im basing my thoughts on what happened last year. i found out i was accepted for vernon staff in late april, and received my travel orders mid may

[TBird]

C-Coy Sec Comd. Boo urns I say, Boo urns. I wanted to be on the Hill as an Sgt, bah. Oh well, employment is employment :D

[RyanForbes]

way to go Dane! i dontknow yet, havnt checked my mail...

as soon as i found out, CW will be the first to hear :D

[Bugler]

What the heck. I've been in band all my course years, and staffed spring band. Then I get this letter in the mail saying I'm slated for a Directing Staff Warrant, in A coy, for ADVENTURE! :eek: What do I have to offer adventure? I play the trumpet, not paddle the canoe! Not complaining or anything, I did get CLI WO for my 1st full summer as a staff cadet, but I just found this to be an odd match... :confused: :rolleyes:

[TBird]

What the heck. I've been in band all my course years, and staffed spring band. Then I get this letter in the mail saying I'm slated for a Directing Staff Warrant, in A coy, for ADVENTURE! :eek: What do I have to offer adventure? I play the trumpet, not paddle the canoe! Not complaining or anything, I did get CLI WO for my 1st full summer as a staff cadet, but I just found this to be an odd match... :confused: :rolleyes:

Yes staff is particularly wack. I'm really thinking I should be moved, and I hope I am. Lots of people are in totally random positions. Mat Esaw is also Adv.

[RyanForbes]

so i hear, talked to matt last night briefly

apparently there is a lot of mess ups as to what the cadets feel they are capable and deserving of doing, and what they actually got.

personally i dont know, as nobody on Van Isle has received any word of staff yet.

[TBird]

apparently there is a lot of mess ups as to what the cadets feel they are capable and deserving of doing, and what they actually got.

Matt deserves to be there, he'll be excellent for the position! High energy and enthuisasm are definatly important for Adventure :p God knows, it would test me... Frankly I'm think about 75% of the positions are totally random. Myself and at least 8 others Ive talked to got really wierd stuff.. then again I know 2 that got excactly what they asked for.

I know some Vas Isl has gotten staff positions, I've talked to two others know.

[RyanForbes]

well i just got my stuff in the mail, and i got rifle coach WO...so vernon had better watch out, cuz the Forbesmeister is coming home!!!!

[Agnew]

well i just got my stuff in the mail, and i got rifle coach WO...so vernon had better watch out, cuz the Forbesmeister is coming home!!!!
Lol, congrats everybody. I've got no word yet. I don't think I'll get staff, which sucks. It really sucks. Meh, if I don't, at least I can give up cadets and get a life for myself. "Hi, I'm Agne...erm, I'm Kev...K..Ke..Kevin."....lol.

Have any of you done this before. A friend or aquaintainces comes up to and is all like "Hi (Insert Your Name Here), how are you?" and you go "That's (Rank)(Last Name) to you!". It's especially bad when it's your DCO, lol!! My Sgt did that to me on parade last week. I was acting as SSM, and the CO comes to 1 troop, asks "How many cadets are supposed to be here?" and she says "It's not my troop, sir, it's Kevs"... Me, the CO, and the MWO all looked at her funny. I was like "WO Agnew...". I was insulted...:'(.

..erm...anyways... Band rocks! So does D+C! And...that's all...:rolleyes:

[RyanForbes]

haha yea, my senior ncos have the whole first name and/or only last name problem...even i do it

we've been trying to use the whole rank-name thing in front of the cadets, but sometimes mistakes happen

[Bugler]

well i just got my stuff in the mail, and i got rifle coach WO...so vernon had better watch out, cuz the Forbesmeister is coming home!!!!

Oh my lord... :rolleyes: Somebody get this kid a bigger hat, lol

[RyanForbes]

well im returning "home" to Vernon in 53 days:D

[Agnew]

:( I got staff *cries in corner*

[RyanForbes]

well good job! i hope your happy, staff is a wonderful experience

[Agnew]

But I got CL staff... I'm hoping I don't got cadets who were like me and some of the cadets in my corps, when we were in CL. How'd my staff cadets cope with me and other cadets... have a lot more respect for my ex-seniors. :o Meh, I'll do what my past seniors did... bribe them with 2 ply!

[chippie]

I think I posted somewhere in this forum before but I'll post again. I'm so excited to go back. I even start packing already :D

VACSTC Band Coy Percussion Instructor 2004 :cool:

[Agnew]

Hmmmm...you packed some 2 ply toilet paper yet??...lol, hmmm, maybe you should just go with that northern quilt stuff lol!..

Band sounds better than CL....a lot better. I want my MOMMY!

[chippie]

Hmmmm...you packed some 2 ply toilet paper yet??...lol, hmmm, maybe you should just go with that northern quilt stuff lol!..

Band sounds better than CL....a lot better. I want my MOMMY!

All I need is my credit card and I'll get the rest at Vernon. I learned from 2002. Try taking everything home at the end is just ouch.

[LongRange]

Well, I'm going to Adventure, so if anyone has any pointers about it, I'd appreciate it.

[RyanForbes]

well i havnt taken the course myself, but from what i know, you are off base out training and having an AWESOME time, for almost 5 weeks, of the 6 total

you get to do a long canoe trip, rock climbing/absailing, (skiing?) and other great things