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JGallagher
8th April 2004, 15:29
What are your views on the USA finger printing persons entering the country? My opinion is that for every 1 terrorist that they catch entering they miss 10 more!! They come by boat or just walk accross the border in the woods!! I personnely think it is the USA is just looking at ways to cause trouble. The hidden agenda!!

piper
8th April 2004, 15:53
How is taking fingerprints of newcomers causing trouble? It is completely understandable to want to fingerprint people coming into the country (and everyone else for that matter) so that there is a quick way to identify people if need be, like in an emergency.

wb256
8th April 2004, 16:03
I personally don't think the government has any buisness with my fingerprints. I don't see this being a very useful method to apprehend terrorists, as many sent to cause problems have never been in the USA before.

I think this is another example of fear removing civil librities at no benifit.

piper
8th April 2004, 16:12
What civil liberties? We have phone taps (Anti-terrorism laws give police more leeway in that now), video cameras, all that big brother stuff...whats fingerprints anymore? Just another thing that they can use, us giving them in dosent really remove any major liberties. Just my views.

The Blue Tory
8th April 2004, 16:43
I personally don't think the government has any buisness with my fingerprints. I don't see this being a very useful method to apprehend terrorists, as many sent to cause problems have never been in the USA before.

I think this is another example of fear removing civil librities at no benifit.

Canadians are exempt from the fingerprinting

JGallagher
8th April 2004, 16:48
Canadians are exempt from the fingerprinting


Yes, but for how long?

Caz
8th April 2004, 17:00
Yes, but for how long?Good point. The Aussies, Japanese, and Brits are now subject.

And they have troops in Iraq.

Wood
8th April 2004, 17:01
Personally, I think its bad policy. How many terrorist attacks can you think of that could be solved by fingerprints?
Either
1) You have no need for prints, because the only bodypart you have is in fact the finger.

2) The perpetrators admit to doing it, (it only creates the desired effect if the people know who did it).

How exactly are you going to use fingerprints to stop terrorism? The same way you attack Iraq to stop terrorism. You're not. However, to stop crime in general. Yes. That is a resonable objective. However, that's efven worst policy, right now when you fingerprint people and tell them that its against terror, they accept it. Tell them that its because they are different and therefore a criminal, different story.

The US government has not shown any commitment to civil liberties or human rights, since september 11th whenever they envoke the name of terror.

Coomber 535
8th April 2004, 17:11
Don't they also do iris scanning at airports?


I think it is absolutely rediculous. What a way to welcome guests to your country than to treat them like criminals!

Just my thought... :D

JGallagher
8th April 2004, 18:49
Well thinking now, I think one of the reasons may be for known possible terriost suspects. Those that have been arrested and printed!!

The Blue Tory
8th April 2004, 20:27
The whole idea sounds somewhat "Big Brotherish" to me...

What next, tracking collars?

Insane Power Pilot
8th April 2004, 20:46
The whole idea sounds somewhat "Big Brotherish" to me...

It sure does...Jim, is your source on this reliable?

JGallagher
9th April 2004, 09:11
It sure does...Jim, is your source on this reliable?



My sourse? You quoted some one else!! I am going on by what I know from traing as a Peace Officer!!

Tomtom
9th April 2004, 09:29
My sourse? You quoted some one else!! I am going on by what I know from traing as a Peace Officer!!


Have you taken an Oath of Office? or are you still in training?

CONtroversial_subject
9th April 2004, 13:38
I could really care less, the government already got my fingerprints on file. I dont think it make no sense recording your prints when you haven't even done nothing yet though.

Wood
9th April 2004, 19:37
Well thinking now, I think one of the reasons may be for known possible terriost suspects. Those that have been arrested and printed!!


Ya, because we all know that US and its allies put terroists in jail all the time and then release them once their time is done.

JGallagher
9th April 2004, 19:53
Have you taken an Oath of Office? or are you still in training?


I should have clarified that I was still training!!

sailrox
9th April 2004, 20:39
Food for thought:

Objecting to the US fingerprinting Brazilian citizens, Brazil's government now fingerprints Americans coming into their country.

Caz
10th April 2004, 08:24
Food for thought:

Objecting to the US fingerprinting Brazilian citizens, Brazil's government now fingerprints Americans coming into their country.That's awesome :cool:

Fufu_65
10th April 2004, 08:29
this is just IMO..but i think George Bush hasnt' really resolved anything..and personally i think he is creating more trouble...getting fingerprints does ABSOLUTELY nothing think of how many ways u can get aroudn that...

wear gloves (latex, wool, whatever)
get someone else to do your dirty work
etc.

honestly how many terrorists do you think they'll catch just by having fingerprints...and even if they do take identify a terrorist by their fingerprints..is that necessarily going to guarantee apprehension??

-SS

UnluckyLove
10th April 2004, 08:34
Food for thought:

Objecting to the US fingerprinting Brazilian citizens, Brazil's government now fingerprints Americans coming into their country.

that's the only way to go about it. it's like "You don't trust us, we don't trust you." but what does the US think about them being fingerprinted....
and as Sorana said, it's not like they're going to catch anyone, there's so many ways to go around it. to me it just looks like the US is wasting money and gaining enemies by saying "hey! we don't trust you! we think you're a terrorist because you're from another country!"
EC

Bubblehead
13th April 2004, 18:16
OK then when we look at terrorist attacks in the mainland USA... when we take out 9/11 many if not most of the major attacks were orchestrated by US Citizens (Oaklahoma Bombings etc).