RMC Cource

[Smith]

Has anybody on cadet-word taken this cource at RMC?
http://www.rmc.ca/academic/continuing/calendar/courses/hie421_e.htm
I am interested in the continuous learning option at RMC.

[Smith]

Has anybody on CW done any cources at RMC in the history side of things?

[CaptNIvek]

Hello
I studied Canadian Military History from the Boer War to the Present at RMC in 2000. What would you like to know?

[Loyal Edmonton]

Has anybody on CW done any cources at RMC in the history side of things?

I am in the basic first year history course

[Smith]

While I want to do Canadian Navy History but realy what is RMC like? What are the classes like really. Just what is like learning at RMC (even if I just take a cource here and there though continuious leaning). RMC is just so infamous I am exited to even take a coue there but I have to wait till I am 23:(

[Smith]

What would you rate the difficulty level of cources at RMC?

[DVessey]

courses at RMC are similar to other university courses. I don't imagine you would find much difference if at all if you were doing them by correspondence.
For arts courses, it's a lot of reading and essay writing, especially since that course you're looking at is a fourth year course.

[RMC 24409]

Having spent a year at OttawaU before coming to RMC, I can say that the quality of education is much better here, I was in Pol science in Ottawa, I'm heading for Honours History in Kingston (I came to Kingston for the courses in military history).

I don't know anything about science and engineering classes, but at RMC, in all your classes, the aspect ratio of teacher to student is small. All my teachers call me by my name and I often have the time to talk with them on class-related topics.

I think that the first year at any civilian university is done for screening. All my courses done in Ottawa were packed with ridiculous people not showing interests. People talking on their cellphones, playing on their laptops, showing up when half the class is almost done... Big difference in discipline obviously.

[CaptNIvek]

I have to agree, with NCdt Bosse I spent two years at Queen's prior to switching to RMC, and I found it was much easier to get assistance from your teachers/Profs at RMC, the fact the class sizes are not as large mean you are more then just student 36912...LOL they can put a face to the name, and in the end I found it a much better learning experience.

[Juice]

Having spent a year at OttawaU before coming to RMC, I can say that the quality of education is much better here, I was in Pol science in Ottawa, I'm heading for Honours History in Kingston (I came to Kingston for the courses in military history).

I don't know anything about science and engineering classes, but at RMC, in all your classes, the aspect ratio of teacher to student is small. All my teachers call me by my name and I often have the time to talk with them on class-related topics.

I think that the first year at any civilian university is done for screening. All my courses done in Ottawa were packed with ridiculous people not showing interests. People talking on their cellphones, playing on their laptops, showing up when half the class is almost done... Big difference in discipline obviously.
That's variable. It really depends on the prof. I haven't had a situation like that at Ottawa, except in a couple of cases.

I've NEVER been in a situation where the prof would allow people to talk on their cell phones during the lecture.

And obviously there is a big difference in discipline :rolleyes: The people that go to a civi university shouldn't be expected to have miltary discipline.

You only spent one year at a civi university. The second, third and fourth years are much more intensive, and at least in the case of my classes, I had very small classes (highest number of 50, which as far as a uni class goes, that's small, and manageable). My seminars next year consist of no more than 15 people.

Every university has its strong points and weak points, even RMC. Let's focus on the positives.

JB

[RMC 24409]

There are numerous positive points found at a Civy U.

-Large amount of courses and programs offered
-Schedule designed for your need
-Cultural events
-Large amount of clubs
-Huge librairies

Altough I would like, there is just too many advantages about RMC to enumerate on this forum. :rolleyes:

No one can't debate the quality of RMC over any other university, it's just not comparable. The 4 components together at RMC represent 4 times what's asked from other universities. One will say that OttawaU asks their students to be at a certain bilingual level... Not comparable! :p

[RMC 24409]

It is true that 2nd, 3rd and 4th years at CivyU are more serious (than 1st year). I also mentionned 1st year as being a screening year.

[Juice]

There are numerous positive points found at a Civy U.

-Large amount of courses and programs offered
-Schedule designed for your need
-Cultural events
-Large amount of clubs
-Huge librairies

Altough I would like, there is just too many advantages about RMC to enumerate on this forum. :rolleyes:

No one can't debate the quality of RMC over any other university, it's just not comparable. The 4 components together at RMC represent 4 times what's asked from other universities. One will say that OttawaU asks their students to be at a certain bilingual level... Not comparable! :p
Again, there is obviously a higher standard expected at a military university then a civi one :rolleyes: If there wasn't, I would question the integrity of that military school.

I don't think that there is any basis for comparison at all. Civi universities and RMC are different. Neither one is necessarily better, they're just different.

JB

[RMC 24409]

A degree done at RMC is much harder than anything in the civy world for the simple reason that we have common courses and more mandatory credits to take than anyone. The engineering students here can tell much about it.

Also, are the courses harder? Well, let me tell you that when teachers have quality in mind, they go harder on you. They also have the time to correct papers without assistants because of class sizes.

[Juice]

A degree done at RMC is much harder than anything in the civy world for the simple reason that we have common courses and more mandatory credits to take than anyone. The engineering students here can tell much about it.
You signed up for it. It's a military school, I would expect higher standards.


Also, are the courses harder? Well, let me tell you that when teachers have quality in mind, they go harder on you. They also have the time to correct papers without assistants because of class sizes.
Many of my profs have quality in mind too, and mark the term work themselves. Don't stereotype civi universities. You spent one year at one civi univerity. You have no room to talk about what profs do and do not look for at civi universities.

JB

[RMC 24409]

You presume I don't have friends in CivyU in 3rd and 4th years? :)

Anyway, I'll leave this as it is,

Choosing RMC is a personnal choice and only a personnal choice, people that I know that are here, really want to be here. People I know in CivyU think I should have stayed at OttawaU...

[Juice]

You presume I don't have friends in CivyU in 3rd and 4th years? :)

Anyway, I'll leave this as it is,

Choosing RMC is a personnal choice and only a personnal choice, people that I know that are here, really want to be here. People I know in CivyU think I should have stayed at OttawaU...
Knowing people in third and fourth years at a civi university does not compare to actually experiencing it.

Yes, it was a personal choice. I just hate when people from RMC hold their "personal choice" over the heads of those who decided to go to a civi university, like they are so much better.

JB

[DVessey]

you mean... I'm not god's gift to the world?

damn.. here I was thinking I was special ;)

I can see where both of you are coming from. The point I would like to make (without having experienced civi U) is that RMC has a lot of mandatory extra stuff (ie/ the 4 'components'.. pillars, whatever), while at civi U there isn't so much mandatory extra stuff, but from what I've heard there is a lot more variety of extra stuff. You can load up on courses and get involved in clubs etc just as much at civi U, if not more so.

Basically, just because we have the four pillars does not necessarily mean that people at civi Us couldn't more or less match what we do.

[RMC 24409]

Anyone reading this thread...

I will not talk for every RMC students (I'm not entitled to...), I have to say tough, as a personnal remark, that the "elite" culture gets you to think you can do better, that you're part of the best. It is a little bit overrated. We are tagged as "La crème de la crème" because of the demanding program, but this program doesn't fully teach you on how NOT TO BE A PRICK. An officer must ALWAYS be approachable.

It's important for anyone reading this thread to understand that RMC will not necessarily make you a better person, as weird as it sounds coming from me. RMC's mandate is to prepare officer cadets in becoming officers. RMC offers you the tools you need to be a good officer, some decide to ignore some of those tools. Also,

Different people follow different paths (ie CivyU), they have different life experiences and are useful at a same level as anybody else for the organization.

Everyone has something to share at this table.