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Globemaster
11th November 2005, 19:09
is it allowed/possible? eg. being a volunteer at an army cdt corps and volunteer at air cdt sqn simuntaniously
i'm trying to find out what to do for life after cadets. i'm currently a reservist aging out of cadets in a bit but definitely plan on going back to help with the cadet program. gonna find out if this is possible first before i go talk to those corps COs. thanks!
Bright Eyes
11th November 2005, 20:19
Sure is! :D
However, I don't know if you can be "paid staff" at both at the same time.
shyraven
11th November 2005, 20:38
I'm pretty sure that you can't get paid at both units. I know someone who is doing two jobs with the cadet program, and I'm 99% sure that she's only allowed to be paid at one.
Cadpat Sailor
11th November 2005, 21:20
I was with 903 BCDs and 243 Air Cadets - as a volunteer - basically I told the COs what I was doing, and they were OK with it. I probably should have submitted paperwork to be on staf at 903 but it wasn't a major "volunteer committement" (I showed up to do band)
It was fun - I like my army cadets ;)
AMerrall
12th November 2005, 09:05
I wouldn't see a problem with it, so long as they don't interfere with each other. I don't think you can get paid from both, though.
J. Gleiberman
12th November 2005, 10:44
I wouldn't see a problem with it, so long as they don't interfere with each other. I don't think you can get paid from both, though.
You cannot hold a paid position with two units at once because in order to hold a paid position as a CI you must have a contract with the unit and Region will not permit a person having more than one contract with a local unit at anytime. This however does not apply when you are involved with camp. You can be at a corps or squadron holding a paid position there and work at a camp at a paid position.
Cadpat Sailor
12th November 2005, 18:33
Paid? Whats this thing called 'paid'.
LOL - just had to put that in there
(goes back to normal CW viewing)
Globemaster
12th November 2005, 20:44
theres paid CI positions now? i didn't know that
btw, if i'm an army reservist would they allow me to volunteer at units of other elements? i'm thinkin of sea or air cadets
chippie
12th November 2005, 22:21
theres paid CI positions now? i didn't know that
btw, if i'm an army reservist would they allow me to volunteer at units of other elements? i'm thinkin of sea or air cadets
There are Paid CI and Unpaid CI. However they CANNOT act as CO or TrgO. Sadly we have reached our quota at the corps and none of our CIs are getting paid. You can certainly volunteer at a :sea: , :army: or :air: unit but you won't be entitle to pay due to the fact you're an reservist. If you're a on a Class B contract at a CSTC then it would be a different case. Th wise thing for any CIs/ Volunteers that helps out for multi-unit is to make sure the CO(s) talk to their Elemental Office and publish it on the MROs. That's the only way you'll get yourself cover in case you got hurt during training with the cadets.
TBird
12th November 2005, 23:55
I thought members of the PRes members who aren't involved with the cadet movement couldn't staff at CSTCs now in a staff cadet or officer role?
chippie
13th November 2005, 00:15
I thought members of the PRes members who aren't involved with the cadet movement couldn't staff at CSTCs now in a staff cadet or officer role?
I'm not sure about being a staff cadet but for taking an officer role is some what common. It happen many times in Vernon or Quadra as I've seen. CWO Eigler (OIC Mil Band) is a member of the 5th Field Band.
N. McKay
13th November 2005, 03:59
btw, if i'm an army reservist would they allow me to volunteer at units of other elements? i'm thinkin of sea or air cadets
I can't imagine any reason why not.
Bright Eyes
13th November 2005, 09:17
I thought members of the PRes members who aren't involved with the cadet movement couldn't staff at CSTCs now in a staff cadet or officer role?
I don't think that's true.
There were 3 reservists working with the music side of Penhold. All of them work full time with bands during the year (2 with LER and one with Tecumseh).
J. Gleiberman
13th November 2005, 13:35
I don't think that's true.
There were 3 reservists working with the music side of Penhold. All of them work full time with bands during the year (2 with LER and one with Tecumseh).
PRes personnel can hold any position at camp. The priority at Blackdown is as follows:
The position will first go to an active CIC officer from in region, if one is not available then to an active CIC officer from out of region, and if one is not available then to a CIC from the SHR, and if not then to a PRes applicant.
Pipe Band Guy
8th December 2005, 07:24
PRes members can hold "Officer" Positions at the CSTC level. and all of the examples hold true for the vernon positions I know for sure. Also if there is a cadet who is also a reservist and attends a CSTC as a SCdt which has also happened there need to be approval from the resrve unit CO and the Region CO plus on top of the the SCdt reservist is subject to the code of service dicipline and is chargable under military law, because they are a ful fledged member of the CF.
Its a sticky area and I knwo in BC the staffing office looks at these situations one at a time and under very tight scrutiny.
Cheers,
M.Yu 101
8th December 2005, 12:58
What if you're a cadet and you want to volunteer as a CI with another element?..for example at the same time Me being a sea cadet but volunteering with Army or Air cadets as a CI ? lol
Flashman
17th December 2005, 09:43
I used to parade with RCSCC 211 Lanark, and simultainiously volunteer at a relatively new RCACC in the area, RCACC 2360 1st Air Defense Regiment (Lanark & Renfrew Scottish). I attended the RCACC meetings in the same order of dress as they were, except.. the appropriate Sea Cadet dress.
I reccomend that anyone who is interested in doing this go out and try it, definitely a GREAT learning experience, along with a good chance to volunteer and help the Cadet program.
AudioGuy
7th January 2006, 11:57
I thought members of the PRes members who aren't involved with the cadet movement couldn't staff at CSTCs now in a staff cadet or officer role?
PRes members who are still cadets can't hold staff cadet positions.
PRes members can staff at a CSTC in Officer positions providing there is no CIC Officer, CI or Sup Reserve Member available for that position. I was Staff at Quadra as PRes for two years and Sup Reserve last year. I moved to Music Standards last year from Senior Music Instructor because there was a qualified CIC Officer available for that position but not one for Standards. In 2006 I will probably have a different role again or even be at a different CSTC.
SBruce
18th January 2006, 21:10
btw, if i'm an army reservist would they allow me to volunteer at units of other elements? i'm thinkin of sea or air cadets
At my squadron we have 2 army reservists as staff members. And obviously since I said squadron, I'm an air cadet, therefore being a different element.
sgt4life
8th February 2006, 09:22
What if you're a cadet and you want to volunteer as a CI with another element?..for example at the same time Me being a sea cadet but volunteering with Army or Air cadets as a CI ? lol
Ooh. Interesting question. I have nothing to back this up with, but my gut instinct says no.
DMCorrigan
8th February 2006, 14:23
You cannot do that.
If you are a cadet in the CCM, you are a cadet in the CCM. Element matters not. ;)
Trev
25th February 2006, 21:27
What if you're a cadet and you want to volunteer as a CI with another element?..for example at the same time Me being a sea cadet but volunteering with Army or Air cadets as a CI ? lol
It might be possible to volunteer, with the permission of both unit COs (yours and theirs). However, you would be volunteering as a cadet, not as a CI. You'd most likely be wearing your sea uniform when volunteering.
- Trev
CaptNIvek
26th February 2006, 08:40
Globemaster
Here in Kingston we have Reservists from the local Militia Regiment who volunteer with the Army and Air units in town. Infact the Militia Regiment even provided them with a few paid days ever couple of months in support of cadet trainning. That was due to the kindess of the Militia CO mind you. But it is possible.
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