Gliding!

[Firepaw]

Hey fellow air cadets! I went gliding for the first time this saturday and it was one of the best times of my life! They let me steer it and i made us freefall! LOL ;) If anyone wants to talk about their gliding experiences, post them here

[Pyro]

Gliding is most definitely awesome! :air: Though I didn't get to go with my squadron 'till I was in lvl 3 :eek:

[sharp-shot]

Gliding is most definitely awesome! :air: Though I didn't get to go with my squadron 'till I was in lvl 3 :eek:
leave it to 517 :rolleyes: :p

[Halee]

leave it to 517 :rolleyes: :p
Snap. :p

I adore gliding. I've done it more times than I can count..! I'm applying for Glider this coming summer too :) And I fly it like every time =)

[KarlSchultz]

Snap. :p

I adore gliding. I've done it more times than I can count..! I'm applying for Glider this coming summer too :) And I fly it like every time =)

lol I wish I got to fly it everytime now days! Turns out Iam watching more then flying latley! :rolleyes:

This might sound cheesy but gliding was one of the best things thats happend to me. :) :air:

[gOt_TuNg]

This might sound cheesy but gliding was one of the best things thats happend to me. :) :air:

YEah gliding was the best thing thats happened to me too :air:

[Schisca]

gliding = "teh awesome"

I really need to go again sometime....

~Schisca~

[Mr G]

I adore gliding. I've done it more times than I can count..! I'm applying for Glider this coming summer too :) And I fly it like every time =)

Good luck! I'll add that I also loved gliding (best 6 weeks ever - power was the best 7 weeks ever).

[FSgt Baumann]

Yeah, Gliding is.. something special. As fun as Power was, at the end of the 7 weeks, I had a craving to glide again. Hopefully, I'm gonna get to do a lot more gliding now, since I finally hit the 10 hr. mark and took & passed my Front Famil check this past Saturday. Of course, that just had to be the second-last day of the season, but the end of season was quite the adventure at COGC... can you say 9000' tow for one the hard working solo cadets?? (He was at 9:20 PIC and wanted to break 10 by the end of the season... so since he'd been out almost every day and working hard, they rewarded him at the end of the day, made it down just in time too, literally a minute before the end of the legal flying day :air: )

[Chiefy268]

I really wish there was a way for sea cadets to at least experince the cool stuff the other two elements do I feel as sea cadets you guys get all the fun stuff.air gets Gliding, army gets to Parachute what does sea get sailing oh fun fun. ;)

[Cadpat Sailor]

Hey Tung, was your instructor OCdt Willis? I remember you were called off the spare list, and he said he had a cadet added to his "students' from ther.e

[Poseidon]

I really wish there was a way for sea cadets to at least experince the cool stuff the other two elements do I feel as sea cadets you guys get all the fun stuff.air gets Gliding, army gets to Parachute what does sea get sailing oh fun fun. ;)

Go join air cadets or army cadets then.

[Chiefy268]

None in my area, if there was I would be in army

[blackerknight]

i love to glide in the air

[sailor_baby]

I really wish there was a way for sea cadets to at least experince the cool stuff the other two elements do I feel as sea cadets you guys get all the fun stuff.air gets Gliding, army gets to Parachute what does sea get sailing oh fun fun. ;)


Sailing is fun......you just gotta be able to sail from point A to point B first (hence white sail)....after that, once you start rudderless, spin, and trap, you'd see that we have good things going for us to:D

also, there is a chance to experience it, I know of corps and squadrons who sometimes do a mini exchange for like a day and see what the other element does. Like in my old corps, there was one weekend where a bunch of cadets (like maybe 10 or so) went on a glider famil. training weekend with a nearby squadron. I heard it was a blast!:D

[Chiefy268]

OMG I wish my corps would do that with a squadron near us. I think the closest squadron from my corps is like an hour away.

[Pyro]

leave it to 517 :rolleyes: :p

Oh psssht, not the squadron's fault they kept scheduling gliding for days I was unavailable. I mean, I got to go on an Aurora famil flight with the squadron before I got to go in a glider :p

[FSgt.Mash]

ha ive gone gliding twice ovewr my going on 5 years as a cadet.. never at camp.. i went power flying once.. wow.. yay.. my frist glider folight the door was held together by duck tape.. and.. it .. OPENED .. meh..

[mai_z]

Gliding is most definitely awesome! :air: Though I didn't get to go with my squadron 'till I was in lvl 3 :eek:

Lvl 5, and still haven't gone gliding. Shhhh...I'm afraid of hights...don't tell anyone!

[gOt_TuNg]

Hey Tung, was your instructor OCdt Willis? I remember you were called off the spare list, and he said he had a cadet added to his "students' from ther.e
YES HE WAS lol he was a good guy well a good "19 year old" :eek:

[KarlSchultz]

my frist glider folight the door was held together by duck tape.. and.. it .. OPENED .. meh..


lol this summer the door on glider 7 kept popping open. Eventually I told my students (jokingly) when flying 7 the only way for a 5 was to land without popping the door open :p

[Chappy]

Good luck! I'll add that I also loved gliding (best 6 weeks ever - power was the best 7 weeks ever).

:eek: Whoa! Six weeks for gliding!? SEVEN for power!? :eek: In NZ we have one week (i.e. 5 days) for the national gliding course (held about a fortnight before christmas) and ten days for national power flying (held middle of January.)

I'd love to go on one of your courses and get six weeks worth of gliding in my logbook! :D

[Mr G]

Lvl 5, and still haven't gone gliding. Shhhh...I'm afraid of hights...don't tell anyone!

To tell you what we tell everybody at the zone: 80% of pilots are afraid of heights

[Mr G]

:eek: Whoa! Six weeks for gliding!? SEVEN for power!? :eek: In NZ we have one week (i.e. 5 days) for the national gliding course (held about a fortnight before christmas) and ten days for national power flying (held middle of January.)

I'd love to go on one of your courses and get six weeks worth of gliding in my logbook! :D

in the end it comes out to 5 1/2 hours dual and 3 hours solo (appx) for gliding and about 48 hours total for power

[Mr G]

i love to glide in the air

Where else would you glide in a glider?

[pilots_are_gods547]

I just love it when you come down from a famil and your turn around and say so how was it and they are in awe of the experience ... it feels good to be a part of that life changing experience

[pilots_are_gods547]

I'd love to go on one of your courses and get six weeks worth of gliding in my logbook! :D

You think it sounds like a lot but really it is not ... not being able to soar does really suck but I mean the power for seven weeks .. yeah that was AWESOME!

[Chappy]

in the end it comes out to 5 1/2 hours dual and 3 hours solo (appx) for gliding...

I've been on two national gliding courses and done a bit of gliding with my squadron and all I've got is about 5 1/2 hrs dual. That's taken me about 2 years! And most people on our courses who go solo are up there for about 30mins or so (depending on tow time, if there are any thermals, weather etc.). And on the past two courses I've attended ('03 and '04), only one person has gone solo (and he'd already gone solo in power the previous year).


What types of gliders do you guys use? We have a range for our courses: Twin Astir II's, a Blanik, a ASK-13. The ASK is by far the best, and the one i've done the most flying in. ;)

[Megan]

I'm going gliding tomorrow... Haven't been in a few years, so I hope I don't make a complete fool of myself. :p

Can I get somebodys opinion on the difference between having a towplane and having a 'slingshot' takeoff?

[KarlSchultz]

I've been on two national gliding courses and done a bit of gliding with my squadron and all I've got is about 5 1/2 hrs dual. That's taken me about 2 years! And most people on our courses who go solo are up there for about 30mins or so (depending on tow time, if there are any thermals, weather etc.). And on the past two courses I've attended ('03 and '04), only one person has gone solo (and he'd already gone solo in power the previous year).


What types of gliders do you guys use? We have a range for our courses: Twin Astir II's, a Blanik, a ASK-13. The ASK is by far the best, and the one i've done the most flying in. ;)

We fly SGS-233 gliders. lol and thats all we fly. The reason our cadets are on the course for the 6 (or seven for power) is because they come away from it with a Transport Cananda Glider pilot or private pilots licence. They do all they're ground school AND flying in that period of time.

[Chappy]

Ah, i see. Over here the aim is to go solo and thats about it. If you're (very, very) lucky on gliding and can get 3 "safe" solo flights and pass the "20 Question Oral Test" you can get a Gliding New Zealand 'C' Certificate, which is basically a glider licence.

So do you guys do aero-tow or winch launches (or both?)

[KarlSchultz]

During the summer the cadets train on Aero Tow. Then some get the chance to do their winch (or even in some places auto) launch convertions when they get to their home gliding centre/zone. Probably at least half of my flights have been off of winch at the zone.

[Mr G]

I'm going gliding tomorrow... Haven't been in a few years, so I hope I don't make a complete fool of myself. :p

Can I get somebodys opinion on the difference between having a towplane and having a 'slingshot' takeoff?

I am confident that the "slingshot" takeoff you are referring to is a winch launch. This is what i can tell you - only in exceptional circumstances will the winch flight be as long as the aerotow flight (although you may reach the same fam flight altitude - 1500 agl - the flight will be shorter because the launch is quicker)

If it is winch, the launch will be more aggressive. However, it's a lot of fun, and can be a nice challenge to learn when doing your winch conversion

[Defiant_babe05]

SLC'S ARE THE ONLY GODS IN THE AIR CADET PROGRAM

WSNBM/OBBP
"WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED"

[Defiant_babe05]

Sorry To All Of You Slc Gods Out There My Hand Slipped

[size=7]wsnbm/onbp

[Dave McLean]

SLC'S ARE THE ONLY GODS IN THE AIR CADET PROGRAM

WSNBM/OBBP
"WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED"


Oh boy. Somebody's gonna have fun with that one.

But go Defiant!

[FSgt Baumann]

SLC'S ARE THE ONLY GODS IN THE AIR CADET PROGRAM

WSNBM/OBBP
"WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED"

Really? Would you care to elaborate on why? I'm sure if you look around on these forums, you'll find more than a couple of SL Grads arguing against that point....

A course is a course. Tradition and pride in them is great, makes you part of the Pilot/SL/SI/AI/whatever family. But don't take it too far. As a pilot, sure I'll say "SLC Sucks" as part of the Airman's Line. But as a senior cadet and a leader (a 'Senior Leader' if you will), I've got respect for the course, for the impact it can have on the cadets I've seen take it. And I realize that what courses you've take don't mean jack back at the home unit if you can't back it up. Maybe some SL grads are "gods" in the way they carry themselves, their knowledge of drill and instruction and their standards. But so are some Pilots, and some SIs and some AIs and so on. On the other side though, there are those grads (from every course) who can't see through the fog of self-pride to the fact that there are other things out there, that all have uses in the Cadet program and in life, and are all great achievements. And in the case of an SL grad arguing that, I've got to ask, what did you learn of leadership during those 6 weeks? Or was the only thing that stuck a 16-minute dance?

[sgt4life]

To answer FSgt Baumann: Give her a break, her hand slipped, right? I'm sure she meant to type "SLC'S ARE THE ONLY CADETS WHO HAVE TAKEN A SIX WEEK LEADERSHIP COURSE IN THE AIR CADET PROGRAM," because that's the only thing that you can guarantee ALL SLC grads are, and NO non-SLC grads are. ;)

(Sgt Harris, please check your PMs.)

Back to your regularly scheduled thread. And please don't make this a flame war (meaning don't start comparing the courses and trying to prove that one is better than another) because I'll just have to shut the whole thread down.

[happypartyfuntime]

that's the only thing that you can guarantee ALL SLC grads are, and NO non-SLC grads are. ;)

So, what if you took SLC, and then didn't graduate? Then you would be a non-SLC grad, who still went on a 6 week leadership course. What about that? :P

[sgtjessie]

Well this thread did attempt to get us to share our gliding stories.. camp stories belong on summer camp central.. and personally, Id rather talk about my flying stories(i have a few good ones) and compare them others... I think ill open with my fear of spinning.

While I was on my 6 week course, we were getting to the advanced manoevers, and one of them was to get out of a spin.. before it started. Before we did that however, our instructors were to show us a full spin, then we would get out of an incipient spin( just b4 you spin) ... well.. i didnt make it. My instructor first did an incipient to show me what i would have to do. Then she proceeded into the spin. We were doing it over the water.. and as i staring in the water.. the fear hit me. I cried. I actually cried on that flight, and thats when i confessed something i never have before.. I told my instructor that Im afraid of water and i cant swim. Needless to say, we never did a spin over the water again.. BUT i still dont like spining very much . :) One story.. about a million to go ... lead on whos next?

[sgt4life]

So, what if you took SLC, and then didn't graduate? Then you would be a non-SLC grad, who still went on a 6 week leadership course. What about that? :P
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Shut up.

[happypartyfuntime]

...

Shut up.

I *heart* you too, ma'am. :)

[pilots_are_gods547]

SLC rule the cadet program .. really .. well apparently not in North Bay ... lets see .... Sabre Flight Commander - Glider pilot .... Flag Party Commander - Power Pilot ... SWO - ATC .... Dep Com (me) :) - Glider/Power pilot ... Chief - Glider/Power pilot ... yeah ... where are the SLC grads ... flight commanders ....

[happypartyfuntime]

what are you talking about? :confused: you're rambling.

[Mr G]

SLC rule the cadet program .. really .. well apparently not in North Bay ... lets see .... Sabre Flight Commander - Glider pilot .... Flag Party Commander - Power Pilot ... SWO - ATC .... Dep Com (me) :) - Glider/Power pilot ... Chief - Glider/Power pilot ... yeah ... where are the SLC grads ... flight commanders ....

I think I understand where you're going with that. In my case yeah, squadron commander - gliding/power (though I do regret not taking SLC)

[KarlSchultz]

While I was on my 6 week course, we were getting to the advanced manoevers, and one of them was to get out of a spin.. before it started. Before we did that however, our instructors were to show us a full spin, then we would get out of an incipient spin( just b4 you spin) ... well.. i didnt make it. My instructor first did an incipient to show me what i would have to do. Then she proceeded into the spin. We were doing it over the water.. and as i staring in the water.. the fear hit me. I cried. I actually cried on that flight, and thats when i confessed something i never have before.. I told my instructor that Im afraid of water and i cant swim. Needless to say, we never did a spin over the water again.. BUT i still dont like spining very much . :) One story.. about a million to go ... lead on whos next?

OMG!! I HATE WATER TOO!!! like big waters as in huge lakes and the ocean! When I was on power I flew around alot of the bigger lakes I came across in MB. I had Nightmares of going down in the water.. I can swim fine... but.... deep/big water gives me the willies! :eek: :o :(

[Insane Power Pilot]

OMG!! I HATE WATER TOO!!! like big waters as in huge lakes and the ocean! When I was on power I flew around alot of the bigger lakes I came across in MB. I had Nightmares of going down in the water.. I can swim fine... but.... deep/big water gives me the willies! :eek: :o :(

Oh man, you would've been screwed if you had my instructor! If you flip out the Calgary VTA and find Bruce Lake (about 51 12' N, 113 33' W), you'll see that it's got a small peninsula type thing...we used to practice forced landings over that. :p It sure was tricky!

[Halee]

SLC'S ARE THE ONLY GODS IN THE AIR CADET PROGRAM

WSNBM/OBBP
"WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED"
Have you ever heard the phrase "Sneck up," from Shakespeare's Twelfth Night?
It's a little bit harsh to use in this situation, but I'll be honest. That comment made me want to smack you, for saying something that's so unfounded, that's purely opinion. And also, it degrades other Air Cadets.

Alright, in keeping with the honesty theme of this post, I'll admit that you are most definitely the kind of SLC grad that a lot of people truly loathe, myself included. Try sticking yourself with a pin, see if that deflates your ego.

Sorry, Sergeant Harris, but please try to be considerate, instead of conceited when posting.

Thank you.

[Halee]

SLC rule the cadet program .. really .. well apparently not in North Bay ... lets see .... Sabre Flight Commander - Glider pilot .... Flag Party Commander - Power Pilot ... SWO - ATC .... Dep Com (me) :) - Glider/Power pilot ... Chief - Glider/Power pilot ... yeah ... where are the SLC grads ... flight commanders ....
Apparently, not anywhere else either.

In a way, air cadets kind of remind me of sea cadets, 'cause we all kinda have our things. There are SIs, SLs, Pilots, AIs, Techies, each to his own. And of course people do mix it up a lot. It all depends on what you like!

I, for one, am a die-hard Techie and I definitely will always be. But in my mind, all the things I do at my home squadron and in my community, lend me a much greater knowledge and experience of leadership then ANY summer camp ever will.

From my point of view, all I ever get from SLC grads is "WSNBM/ONBP," "We are the freakin' trees," and "OMGGZZZ ITS THE SLC SHUFFLE SONG SWEEETT WE TOTALLY NEED 2 DO OUR DANCEE OMG" but that's just the SLC grads I know. And I get a lot of "At SLC, we did it this way."

But everyone has their own thing. :) It's everyone to their own tastes. I just don't see from them a lot of what the course really teaches you. And in my opinion, if all you come home with is a bunch of "secret" slogans, traditions, an unnecessarily long dance, and a condom in your wedge, you might not have really absorbed all that the course has to offer.

I would like to agree in saying that no one group of graduates "rules" anything.

[sgt4life]

Haley, please just drop it. I don't want this thread turining into a flame war. I've PM'd Sgt Harris. She doesn't also need a lot of other users flaming her. Thanks. :)

[Lil Lightnin]

oh dear...looks like we're gonna need this here too

http://www.kshs.org/cool3/graphics/gong.jpg

[Mr G]

Haley, please just drop it. I don't want this thread turining into a flame war. I've PM'd Sgt Harris. She doesn't also need a lot of other users flaming her. Thanks. :)

Why, why do like to take the fun out of things? ;)

[KarlSchultz]

Oh man, you would've been screwed if you had my instructor! If you flip out the Calgary VTA and find Bruce Lake (about 51 12' N, 113 33' W), you'll see that it's got a small peninsula type thing...we used to practice forced landings over that. :p It sure was tricky!


haha ya I could see that being problem "YOU WANT ME TO WHAT???"

[Halee]

Haley, please just drop it. I don't want this thread turining into a flame war. I've PM'd Sgt Harris. She doesn't also need a lot of other users flaming her. Thanks. :)
Not a problem Ma'am. :)

Oh whoa, I went gliding this fall and the pilot (507's former training officer, Captain Kierstead,) didn't recognize me at all. And when I told him I'd been in for 5 years, he goes "oh, you're a lifer." :p I guess that's right. So anyway, he let me fly of course. I was actually pretty good, and we did a lot of sudden dips.. Right after we released the tow-rope, he goes "Did you put the ballast back in?" and I was like "Uhh, no." Then after I told him how much I weighed, he goes "And there's no ballast?!? Well, this is going to be interesting to see."

I was a little worried. And the harness wasn't tight enough so I had to keep a hand flat on the canopy to keep from smacking my head off it.. Oh, it was so fun.

[KarlSchultz]

Not a problem Ma'am. :)

he goes "Did you put the ballast back in?" and I was like "Uhh, no." Then after I told him how much I weighed, he goes "And there's no ballast?!? Well, this is going to be interesting to see."

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what some people don't realzie is thats a legal issue. for an a/c to be considered airworth it HAS to be within weight and balance. Part of the check list for a reason ;)

[Halee]

I didn't think that just assuming you don't need the ballast was a very good idea. =/

[Mr G]

I didn't think that just assuming you don't need the ballast was a very good idea. =/

Flying out of weight and balance is not fun, things get really really tricky, though I've never done it in a glider, it happened once that I miscalculated a fuel value and ended up a bit too heavy. It was a complete blunder on my part, wasn't intentional and if nothing else it made the take off unusual enough to make sure that i'll never make that mistake again.

[Defiant_babe05]

This post is in regards to my previous un open minded post about SLC's. I'm sorry If i offended any of you glider/ power pilots out there, I was fresh off the course and yeah my head was kinda big. But my point was that we work extremely hard all summer long but as soon as we cme back to the squadron all we hear from our fellow cadets is " cant spell slack without slc" and other comments of that nature, but then you have your pilots who are told all summer that they are gods, and i dont really understand it, I guess every Senior Course has their opinions i just expressed mine in the wrong way. So again I apologize for any "Flame Wars" that i have contributed to or started, if anyone has anything to say to me PM me and I'll be glad to talk to them.

P.S: Hailey You need to take a pill, Shakespeare cant help you now

[gOt_TuNg]

Flying out of weight and balance is not fun, things get really really tricky, though I've never done it in a glider, it happened once that I miscalculated a fuel value and ended up a bit too heavy. It was a complete blunder on my part, wasn't intentional and if nothing else it made the take off unusual enough to make sure that i'll never make that mistake again.
You got that right...one time on the gliding field a rear seat fam pilot had a lead seat (25lbs) in the front because his last cadet was too light and after he got down i happened to get his glider and forgot to take out the lead seat :o and yeah i weight 190 + 25 = 215 eek i was 5lbs away from max weight...yeah freaky mod curcuits and 800ft sink... theres my life story :cool:

[Mr G]

You got that right...one time on the gliding field a rear seat fam pilot had a lead seat (25lbs) in the front because his last cadet was too light and after he got down i happened to get his glider and forgot to take out the lead seat :o and yeah i weight 190 + 25 = 215 eek i was 5lbs away from max weight...yeah freaky mod curcuits and 800ft sink... theres my life story :cool:

Well at least you didn't forget your airmanship and how to mod a circuit! And yeah, I always check for the balast because being a larger person I have a hard enough time keeping the node up at the ideal speed of best L/D. Needless to say, there's no trim in between where i need it.

[Chappy]

I am sooooooooooooooooooooo annoyed with gliding at the moment. Firstly, I applied for the national gliding course and didn't get on :(

but what annoys me more is that our Sqns last gliding day of the year was cancelled due to low cloud :mad: Oh well, I found out yesterday I got a scholarship for our National Power Flying Course :D so it all balances out.

[Flying Spirit]

You got that right...one time on the gliding field a rear seat fam pilot had a lead seat (25lbs) in the front because his last cadet was too light and after he got down i happened to get his glider and forgot to take out the lead seat :o and yeah i weight 190 + 25 = 215 eek i was 5lbs away from max weight...yeah freaky mod curcuits and 800ft sink... theres my life story :cool:

Jimmy Tung..*shakes head*..that can't surely be your life story..! That's not what I hear from OCdt Willis, anyways:P

[Toxic]

SLC rule the cadet program .. really .. well apparently not in North Bay ... lets see .... Sabre Flight Commander - Glider pilot .... Flag Party Commander - Power Pilot ... SWO - ATC .... Dep Com (me) :) - Glider/Power pilot ... Chief - Glider/Power pilot ... yeah ... where are the SLC grads ... flight commanders ....

Uhmmm I ain't a pilot...It's Hornet Flight Commander. Geeze Dep Com get it right :p

[Oke A]

Can I get somebodys opinion on the difference between having a towplane and having a 'slingshot' takeoff?


I am confident that the "slingshot" takeoff you are referring to is a winch launch.

Well lets just hold on here...This is very interesting...I found this out before I got my wings. This slingshot proposal may be exactly what is being asked...or better known as Bungee Launch....Check it out...neat eh? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bungee1.jpg

As for the differances....the picture describes it all:)

[Mr G]

Well lets just hold on here...This is very interesting...I found this out before I got my wings. This slingshot proposal may be exactly what is being asked...or better known as Bungee Launch....Check it out...neat eh? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bungee1.jpg

As for the differances....the picture describes it all:)

hmmm... i don't know if i'd want to give that a try....

[Oke A]

Oh I would cetainly give that a shot...Just write in a new endorsement in the 'ol log book...Bungee Launch lol

I don't know, I think the idea's great lol

[Halee]

P.S: Hailey You need to take a pill, Shakespeare cant help you now

Thanks..!! I really needed a laugh tonight..! Oh, that was priceless. Truly. I'd put it in my signature, if I had space. And there's no I in my name, 'kay?

But thanks for that fantastic bit of humor!

[Gubbels]

I've gone up over weight once, it was a good experience but something I would never wish to repeat. I'm a heavier guy, and my buddy who is about 180 took up a C152, needless to say upon landing it kinda swurved my way on the runway, and it was a pain in my rear to get it going straight again. :) I'd congratulate my friend, he didn't even flinch, I think if i was a passenger and that was happening I would most definently be freaking :cool: .

[sgt4life]

Haley and Chelsey: Fight your batte in PMs only now, please... if at all. Or, one of you could simply ignore the other since all course bashing is stupid and responding to it just interests the antagonizer.


as soon as we cme back to the squadron all we hear from our fellow cadets is " cant spell slack without slc" and other comments of that nature.I hear ya. I got the same thing when I came back from SLC. In some cases it's friendly teasing (although that can also go too far) and other times it really is stupid, rude, ignorant people. I hate those.

[KarlSchultz]

But my point was that we work extremely hard all summer long


And thats awsome! But the thing everyone should remember is that everyone works VERY hard while their on these advanced courses. Different courses just have different areas of study. I can't speak for SLC, but I know when I was on Power, we had 2 hours of Manditory study per night, on top of what we did during the day, and most of us would study while we lounged around and chatted to.

lol as to the weight and balance stuff. Did that once in a glider. asked the kid how much he weighed... he answered. didn't seem right to me but I was like... "o....k" and we went. got back and the kids mom told me he was actually like 30 heavier then that. gets challenging

[Mr G]

And thats awsome! But the thing everyone should remember is that everyone works VERY hard while their on these advanced courses. Different courses just have different areas of study. I can't speak for SLC, but I know when I was on Power, we had 2 hours of Manditory study per night, on top of what we did during the day, and most of us would study while we lounged around and chatted to.

lol as to the weight and balance stuff. Did that once in a glider. asked the kid how much he weighed... he answered. didn't seem right to me but I was like... "o....k" and we went. got back and the kids mom told me he was actually like 30 heavier then that. gets challenging

I agree with the mandatory study - it gets very taxing. Also, the gliding course the cadets will be running a lot every day on top of everything provided they are being a team player and helping their friends (stupid time sheet queens...).

With the weight and balance, yeah i know it happens occasionally (sometimes those cadets are just so desperate for the chance to go for a flight); i've never had the issue because we've got enough varying weighted fam pilots at the zone where i fly that i only get the smaller cadets (which makes sense considering i'm a larger person).

[flyingguitarist]

Gliding is just about the best part of cadets, besides polishing boots lol. I was at CRGS this past summer and it was the best time of my life, looking forward to power this summer. I got my front seat the last day of the season this fall and my g/f was my first passenger, it was amazing! And I love taking the little cadets up and letting them fly! Can't wait to take some more of my friends up this spring.

[Stutski]

I've never been in a Glider. I've been in Cadets for 6 years. Ever since I failed the entrance exam, I've never really been around them.

I have, however, been in many a powered aircraft and made us float. :D

[pilots_are_gods547]

Uhmmm I ain't a pilot...It's Hornet Flight Commander. Geeze Dep Com get it right :p
Sorry FSgt ;)

[TECHie]

MAn, I am soooo stoked. I found out on the 18th that i got glider in Pac region.. if there are any suggestions or tips for on course, feel free to PM me.

[Sp0r3]

MAn, I am soooo stoked. I found out on the 18th that i got glider in Pac region.. if there are any suggestions or tips for on course, feel free to PM me.

wow... you got notified already??? If thats the case, that means im not in it :(

[Hardy]

yeah a guy in my squadron found out last night he got glider.

[Merlin_77]

Ive been gliding 4 times...its awesome..but last year I was in a Thermal and we had a fun time getting down from 4500 feet :eek: we just dipped our left wing and fell about 500 feet in about 4-5 seconds...IT WAS FUN!! :air: :D but yeah..has anyone else ever been in a situation like that?? I know that it is pretty common in the summer..I just wanna hear about how go got down and what techniques..

PS: Im from Ottawa Ontario.!! WOO HOO!

[Mr G]

Ive been gliding 4 times...its awesome..but last year I was in a Thermal and we had a fun time getting down from 4500 feet :eek: we just dipped our left wing and fell about 500 feet in about 4-5 seconds...IT WAS FUN!! :air: :D but yeah..has anyone else ever been in a situation like that?? I know that it is pretty common in the summer..I just wanna hear about how go got down and what techniques..

PS: Im from Ottawa Ontario.!! WOO HOO!

Pull the spoilers, increase forward pitch. The cadet in the back seat had to use the facilities ;)

[flyin'sFUN]

I'm on glider this summer too! Any tips and the like would be greatly appreciated!

[setlack55]

hey me too!! where you from?

[Sp0r3]

Ive been gliding 4 times...its awesome..but last year I was in a Thermal and we had a fun time getting down from 4500 feet :eek: we just dipped our left wing and fell about 500 feet in about 4-5 seconds...IT WAS FUN!! :air: :D but yeah..has anyone else ever been in a situation like that?? I know that it is pretty common in the summer..I just wanna hear about how go got down and what techniques..

PS: Im from Ottawa Ontario.!! WOO HOO!

so you mean that the fam pilot did a spin or spiral and go down 500 feet??? I thought any type of aerobatics (including very high angle of banking maneuvers) in cadets is probibited especially while famming cadets.

I've got alot of thermal experiences before, but nothing compares to glding in ugly weather. It was the first flight of the day, and i was sent up to do my check ride so i can start famming cadets. The sky wasnt that nice and is filled with clouds. So the tow pilot took my instructor and i up as high as possible and released. There, i was gldiing in an area surrounded by clouds. I tried turning away from the cloud so i wouldnt fly into it, but the clouds moved faster than I could glide. For like 5 seconds, i was in a cloud with snow going into the cockpit through the ventilation hole. Snow blasting into my face while I tried to get out of the mess. Inside the cloud, all i could see was white, nothing else. Then after i got out of the cloud, i had to use my hand to wipe all the moisture that collected inside the canopy... boy, that was a fun experience.

[Insane Power Pilot]

so you mean that the fam pilot did a spin or spiral and go down 500 feet??? I thought any type of aerobatics (including very high angle of banking maneuvers) in cadets is probibited especially while famming cadets.

It's called a slip. That's not an aerobatic or high banking maneuver.

[Mr G]

so you mean that the fam pilot did a spin or spiral and go down 500 feet??? I thought any type of aerobatics (including very high angle of banking maneuvers) in cadets is probibited especially while famming cadets.

I've got alot of thermal experiences before, but nothing compares to glding in ugly weather. It was the first flight of the day, and i was sent up to do my check ride so i can start famming cadets. The sky wasnt that nice and is filled with clouds. So the tow pilot took my instructor and i up as high as possible and released. There, i was gldiing in an area surrounded by clouds. I tried turning away from the cloud so i wouldnt fly into it, but the clouds moved faster than I could glide. For like 5 seconds, i was in a cloud with snow going into the cockpit through the ventilation hole. Snow blasting into my face while I tried to get out of the mess. Inside the cloud, all i could see was white, nothing else. Then after i got out of the cloud, i had to use my hand to wipe all the moisture that collected inside the canopy... boy, that was a fun experience.

These are the sort of stories that should be shared with caution, considering you went IFR without a clearance, the license to do so or an aircraft that is certified to do so. Besides, if you were that close to clouds, you must have broken VFR weather minima on the flight as soon as you were brought to release.

[Sp0r3]

These are the sort of stories that should be shared with caution, considering you went IFR without a clearance, the license to do so or an aircraft that is certified to do so. Besides, if you were that close to clouds, you must have broken VFR weather minima on the flight as soon as you were brought to release.

nah.... i can still see through the clouds... but kina hard
well... under the atis report then, i didnt break the VFR weather minima... all was done with caution... i move away from clouds that were descending fast... so its a safe story...

[KarlSchultz]

so you mean that the fam pilot did a spin or spiral and go down 500 feet??? I thought any type of aerobatics (including very high angle of banking maneuvers) in cadets is probibited especially while famming cadets.

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There are other ways to get down quickly in a situation like that, which would probably have a cadet give a desciption "we dipped our wing and down we came".

For example sunday, after releasing at 2500 for a spin spiral flight, I did 2 spins with the student, a wicked spiral dive and 2 stalls we were at 2700! Time was tight so I took control and demo'd a steep desending turn. I find it funny that Iam always told by younger pilots who are up on a day with heavy thermal activity "I couldn't get down and didn't want to spin it!"

[Sp0r3]

haha... my first impression was spin/spiral, never thought about a steep descending turn.

Well... for those that go fam gliding, what do you enjoy the most? I want to know what cadets feel when they go gliding with a fam pilot. What do you enjoy the most? What do you not like about gliding? Im just trying to become a better fam pilot by giving what they want more and less of what they dont :D

[Mr G]

haha... my first impression was spin/spiral, never thought about a steep descending turn.


If you do Power, there's a procedure called an Emergency Descent, which is just that (for the most part).



Well... for those that go fam gliding, what do you enjoy the most? I want to know what cadets feel when they go gliding with a fam pilot. What do you enjoy the most? What do you not like about gliding? Im just trying to become a better fam pilot by giving what they want more and less of what they dont :D

Most cadets will tell you stuff that you can't do according to the 242, like roller coasters.

[flyin'sFUN]

hey me too!! where you from?

I'm in the Atlantic region. I'm SO excited!:D

[JustBeenAxed]

I went gliding for my first time 3 weeks ago. it was really fun! and i like the bubble windows they have on the gliders, really gives a good view 2k feet in the air... :air: :D